Are automatics really slower?
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Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by Darins94TransAmGT
Only some v6 cars. One of my friends has a 96 RS a4 w/ 3.08 gears. It has GU4 in the rpo codes.
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From: cinci
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by shoebox
Last time I looked, we were in the LT1 forum. Geez, I guess I have to quailfy every statement to the nth degree!
no 4th gens at all had 3.08s, haha
just adding to the fun
i'm not even gonna comment on the actual thread since everybody has mentioned the pros/cons of autos/manuals
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From: pa
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by BadCo.
I want to know why you guys are going through six of these auto transmissions. (that always cracks me up when I read that) Why do you say they dont hold up when it seems the one common denominator in all the transmissions your busting up is you! I don't have this problem that's for sure!
If a L60 transmission let me down once (which it has not) I would rebuild /replace it no problem.
If it broke down the second time I might have it fixed again but I'd have to think about it, and consider other alternatives, maybe it really isnt worth it, whatever, etc.
But six times????? thats just funny! again the one common denominator is you and it doesnt seem fair to bad mouth the transmission. The fact is that if auto's were not so desireable they would not have made so many.
More people want them, so in that aspect they are better...and worth more!
Now let the flames begin, I'll pop some popcorn and kick back and watch.
peace
If a L60 transmission let me down once (which it has not) I would rebuild /replace it no problem.
If it broke down the second time I might have it fixed again but I'd have to think about it, and consider other alternatives, maybe it really isnt worth it, whatever, etc.
But six times????? thats just funny! again the one common denominator is you and it doesnt seem fair to bad mouth the transmission. The fact is that if auto's were not so desireable they would not have made so many.
More people want them, so in that aspect they are better...and worth more!
Now let the flames begin, I'll pop some popcorn and kick back and watch.
peace
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From: cali,chino
Re: Are automatics really slower?
i loved beating 6-speeds at the track when my car was stock.. its just the look on there face when i launched 5 cars on them out of the hole..and cause there always maddogin the auto
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Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by Robbie
I think you get about 15% drivetrain loss vs about 20% with an auto.
If you've got the money for it... i say screw them both and go Lenco. They have very little drivetrain loss(comparable to an M6), they'll shift as fast as you pull the levers, and they'll last you forever. I know one guy that has a couple of 8 second fox-bodies(1/4 mile) that runs 5- and 6-speed lencos... after many seasons of brutal racing and a few different engine combos he still hasn't touched the trannies (I think one of them he's been using since the mid-late 90's) They're expensive, but damn bulletproof.
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Re: Are automatics really slower?
why would you buy a sports car with a auto you myswell just by a station wagon cause thats about all the fun your gonna see.I love the way my car sounds when I'm running it threw the gears. If ya know how to drive you can take a auto.but the best part is my 6 spds not gonna blow up on raceday either.
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From: Oshawa - Home of the 5th-gen
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by newWolforder
but the best part is my 6 spds not gonna blow up on raceday either.
But you know that you've got a way higher chance of blowing the rear end with your 6-speed than with an auto?!
Originally Posted by PredatorZ28
i loved beating 6-speeds at the track when my car was stock.. its just the look on there face when i launched 5 cars on them out of the hole..and cause there always maddogin the auto
You know what's funny though, the DRIVER really does make a huge difference with a stick car. Case in point, last Saturday:- my LS1 A4 = 13.0 in the 1/4 mile
- guy w/'00 LS1 M6 = ~13.7's
- buddy with stock '97 LT1 M6 = ~13.775
The guy with the LS1 M6 should have been running the same as me (or better) yet my friend could run just about the same as him with his LT1 'cause he's a helluva stick driver
.The problem is, the "average" driver can't run their standard tranny all that well, so their cars will never be run to their full potential. 12 second cars will run 13's, 13 second cars will run 14's, and so on
. Maybe the auto isn't quite as "fun", but at least there's way less embarrassment in a race!
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From: cen-tex
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by newWolforder
why would you buy a sports car with a auto you myswell just by a station wagon cause thats about all the fun your gonna see.I love the way my car sounds when I'm running it threw the gears. If ya know how to drive you can take a auto.but the best part is my 6 spds not gonna blow up on raceday either.
when i'm on a date with my g/f, i dont want to let go of her hand for the constant shifting.
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From: Jacksonville
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by viperkiller
when i'm on a date with my g/f, i dont want to let go of her hand for the constant shifting.
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Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
I'll just give her something else to hold onto while I'm rowing through the gears.
. Eventually they just want to hold hands all the time. Been there, done that with a standard, and it really is easier with an auto.Autos and standards really both have their pros and cons
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Re: Are automatics really slower?
Originally Posted by Capn Pete
Unfortunately that doesn't last forever. Eventually they just want to hold hands all the time.
. Eventually they just want to hold hands all the time.
Last edited by 97WS6SCharged; Aug 27, 2004 at 08:10 AM.
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From: Plainville, CT
Re: Are automatics really slower?
Well I'm married so holding hands is the last priority on my list LOL. that and back in the day when I had a 69 camaro 4th gear was always a good place to catch a little leg on the hunny next to me and they would giggle. was a great icebreaker to get them comfortable to being touched and most of them would usually just put there hand on mine on the shifter,of course the throw on the old m26 rock crushers was alot more then the T56