What is your definition of "Street Trim"
What is your definition of "Street Trim"
My friend and I are having a discussion as to what constitutes street trim. I disagree that MT streets, although DOT approved, would not constiture street trim. What would you guys consider street trim? 
Mickey Thompson Doesn't list thier MT streets on thier street page, they list them on thier track page. I do not believe that these tires were intended for daily use.
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.html
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.html

Mickey Thompson Doesn't list thier MT streets on thier street page, they list them on thier track page. I do not believe that these tires were intended for daily use.
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.html
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.html
Last edited by LeftoverChinese; Oct 1, 2003 at 09:24 AM.
The way you drive it to the track, except tires. In other words, it has mufflers, windshield wipers, inspection sticker, registration, carpeting, seats... Everything except tires. Tires really need to be matched to the chassis and power level of the car so that it can properly launch.
Racers will usually call "street trim" any vehicle that is capable of being driven on the street with minimal work.
Guys that typically race "street class", like I do, don't care about octane or anything else as long as the car can actually be driven legally on the street with just a quick tire change. I mix some 104 unleaded with my regulat premium to bring the total octane rating to 95.5 and I drive my car on the street. I even drive to and from the track, although i attempt to trailer it for really long trips (like over 400 miles or so...).
Guys that typically race "street class", like I do, don't care about octane or anything else as long as the car can actually be driven legally on the street with just a quick tire change. I mix some 104 unleaded with my regulat premium to bring the total octane rating to 95.5 and I drive my car on the street. I even drive to and from the track, although i attempt to trailer it for really long trips (like over 400 miles or so...).
My definition includes being able to pass local inspection with no fudging. In many locations, this includes a visual check for intact emissions equipment, in other areas a tailpipe test is required as well. Personally, it's a matter of pride that I can (and have) driven my car to the track and run mid-10's. It's a 110 mile round trip, BTW, and all the emissions are intact and functional 
OTOH, there are people with race cars that they like to call "street cars" just because they can drive for thirty miles without breaking anything or overheating. There are many definitions.
Rich Krause

OTOH, there are people with race cars that they like to call "street cars" just because they can drive for thirty miles without breaking anything or overheating. There are many definitions.
Rich Krause
I define it as being able to drive to the track and able to pass local inspection.
Actually, the track down here had an event were they did tech at a Home Depot 10 miles from the track and you had to drive the car (witout stoppping, they had spies on the road) in order to run. Seems like a pretty good idea.
Actually, the track down here had an event were they did tech at a Home Depot 10 miles from the track and you had to drive the car (witout stoppping, they had spies on the road) in order to run. Seems like a pretty good idea.
Originally posted by Got-LT1
I define it as being able to drive to the track and able to pass local inspection.
Actually, the track down here had an event were they did tech at a Home Depot 10 miles from the track and you had to drive the car (witout stoppping, they had spies on the road) in order to run. Seems like a pretty good idea.
I define it as being able to drive to the track and able to pass local inspection.
Actually, the track down here had an event were they did tech at a Home Depot 10 miles from the track and you had to drive the car (witout stoppping, they had spies on the road) in order to run. Seems like a pretty good idea.
Rich Krause
I've always felt if you can pull up to a gas pump for fuel be it blending some 110 wiith 93, 100unleaded , or you drive on a tank of 110 octane for say 121 miles in my case and the drive was on stock tires or dot's or change to dot's at the track then its a driver.
I can respect Rich's total "legal" mind set also but my true STREET CAR is one that can go from point {a}to {b} and back to {A} again all on its own and lay a 11 second run or quicker down. This is my "idea" of a "streetcar". If you can afford to drive a car that takes 110 octane and its at the pumps its the cost the driver affords. Now my car can and has been driven cross country on 93 but timing has to be mild and you stay outta the go peddle.
With a splash of 3 gallons of 110 to the rest of the tank full of 93 and its fun time on motor, and with the always ready 118 sunoco nos blend in the nitrous fuel cell any thing can happen at will
if needed.
I'm I a "Real street car" ? I say yes
And I do go thru a set of Mickey Thompson 13.50X28 street ets a summer "driving" to the track on them...
...I get about 3000 miles to a set
Just the cost of driving what I call my version of a Street car.
By the way check out the current issue of "Hemmings Muscle Machines"[november] for a good feature on my Street car titled:
Fire Breathing Firehawk.
oh and no driving in rain on et streets means the car is parked of course....
I can respect Rich's total "legal" mind set also but my true STREET CAR is one that can go from point {a}to {b} and back to {A} again all on its own and lay a 11 second run or quicker down. This is my "idea" of a "streetcar". If you can afford to drive a car that takes 110 octane and its at the pumps its the cost the driver affords. Now my car can and has been driven cross country on 93 but timing has to be mild and you stay outta the go peddle.
With a splash of 3 gallons of 110 to the rest of the tank full of 93 and its fun time on motor, and with the always ready 118 sunoco nos blend in the nitrous fuel cell any thing can happen at will
if needed. I'm I a "Real street car" ? I say yes
And I do go thru a set of Mickey Thompson 13.50X28 street ets a summer "driving" to the track on them...
...I get about 3000 miles to a set
Just the cost of driving what I call my version of a Street car.
By the way check out the current issue of "Hemmings Muscle Machines"[november] for a good feature on my Street car titled:
Fire Breathing Firehawk.
oh and no driving in rain on et streets means the car is parked of course....
Last edited by Hot Rod Hawk; Oct 1, 2003 at 07:37 PM.
I've seen many Super Stock cars that except for the engine, could be very streetable. Tubbed out, 4 link suspensions and wheelie bars but you look at the rest of the car and it looks very streetable.
We have a local racer with a Buick Calais running in GT/CA. He runs high 9's at sea level with a SBC. The engine isn't very streetable but put a milder engine into the car and it could be. Sure looks nice having a V8 sitting under the hood where a transverse mounted V6 once sat. It looks like it came from the factory that way.
We have a local racer with a Buick Calais running in GT/CA. He runs high 9's at sea level with a SBC. The engine isn't very streetable but put a milder engine into the car and it could be. Sure looks nice having a V8 sitting under the hood where a transverse mounted V6 once sat. It looks like it came from the factory that way.
ET streets are included in my definition of street trim, regardless of how MT classifies or recommends thier use, since you can (and many people do) legally drive them on the street.
You can still be in "street trim" or be "streetable" without having a daily driver setup. IMO, as long as you can cruise around, sit in traffic, and hop across town on the freeway if needed, then it's streetable.
You can still be in "street trim" or be "streetable" without having a daily driver setup. IMO, as long as you can cruise around, sit in traffic, and hop across town on the freeway if needed, then it's streetable.
Originally posted by speedmiser
ET streets are included in my definition of street trim, regardless of how MT classifies or recommends thier use, since you can (and many people do) legally drive them on the street.
You can still be in "street trim" or be "streetable" without having a daily driver setup. IMO, as long as you can cruise around, sit in traffic, and hop across town on the freeway if needed, then it's streetable.
ET streets are included in my definition of street trim, regardless of how MT classifies or recommends thier use, since you can (and many people do) legally drive them on the street.
You can still be in "street trim" or be "streetable" without having a daily driver setup. IMO, as long as you can cruise around, sit in traffic, and hop across town on the freeway if needed, then it's streetable.
Something that you can comfortably drive on the street with a passenger or more (if you have rear seats still). Stripped out interiors, no stereo, no A/C, ect......Kinda takes away from comfortable streetability.
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