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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Went back to the track tonight...

& it still wouldn't 60ft. for sh$t, the 1st. pass i set the pressure @ 22, did a small burn out, pulled up & left @ 4500, it spun a few revalution then hooked (2.0785) 60ft., my 1/8 MPH was the best ever @ 81.34, but the car was slower in the 1/4 all night, i am convinced that no matter what, it'll NEVER see a 1.8 60ft. the way it sits unless it had an A4 with a stall, the only cheaper option at this point is the bottle, i'm sure the MF will 60ft. then lol, the engine just doesn't have the torque to propell this weight that fast "with an M6 that is", i hate to feel this way, but untill someone proves it to me IN PERSON on a bolt-on LT1 M6 with 4.11s & 26" DRs, i'm not convinced. Here are the other 3 times. dropped pressure back to 18 psi.

2nd. run- left the norm as i useally do, 4K & dump then floor it, but i shifted around 5200 on the 1-2 shift, that explains the slower 330 & 1/8.
60ft. 2.0594
330 5.8705
1/8 mph 79.07
1/8 et 9.05
1/4 13.86 @ 100.04
3rd. run-left @ 3K & rolled it out rideing the clutch some, the car felt better on the leave, but the slip don't lie.
60ft. 2.0976
330 5.8683
1/8 mph 79.86
1/8 et 8.99
1/4 13.75 @ 101.53
4th. run- left the same as norm, 4K & dump, then floor it.
60ft. 2.0759
330 5.8647
1/8 mph 79.25
1/8 et 9.02
1/4 13.81 @ 100.90
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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Stalled auto wont help you. You need some et streets then you will 60' it. I have the BFG dr's and I think they suck. On the street any way. If I air them down to 18 psi and dont do a burn out they will dead hook off the spray but if I do aburn out they will just spin through second. Now if I launch on nitrous regaurdless if I burn out or not they will spin through first ,second and finnally hook in third. I'm about to throw these et streets on and I shouldnt have this problem
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pyro719
Stalled auto wont help you. You need some et streets then you will 60' it. I have the BFG dr's and I think they suck. On the street any way. If I air them down to 18 psi and dont do a burn out they will dead hook off the spray but if I do aburn out they will just spin through second. Now if I launch on nitrous regaurdless if I burn out or not they will spin through first ,second and finnally hook in third. I'm about to throw these et streets on and I shouldnt have this problem

Thats why i stayed away from the BFGs, they are JUNK period, hell jegs dropped the price on them lol, anyhoo, thats not my problem, I DEAD hook, i don't spin, my junk is falling on its face (bogging), i tried the "let the tires spin some theory" & it still didn't 60ft. any better, i KNOW for a fact an A4 with a good stall will cure my problems or a shot of Nos or maybe a 30/30 Rifle/For sale sign lol, but thats a last resort , i'm getting sick of this chit, maybe i'll just keep it a DD/street racer period, no more going after that quicker time slip O & BTW, your running an A4, i'm running an M6, thats like apples to oranges, my advice for you, Throw those BFGs in the trash & get the ET streets on faaaaast lol.

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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Junk huh....myself and number of guys have ran some pretty good times on those junk tires....maybe you should run them at 15 psi like most people?
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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did you ever run the car with stock tires? how did it do?
Ill bet it kills the stock tires with a 4000 rpm dump.
next time at the track air those slicks up til they spin like stinky and then let some air out, try it more than once. go back through your original post and read the good advise the faster m6 guys gave you.
dont loose your patience yet, most of those guys have been doing this for years, hundreds of times
what you have is a good foundation ,rearend, gears headers,cai . build upon it--------

LJM97Z
97 Z28 M6, Bolt-ons, CAI, PS LTs, Mag. cat-back, Hypertech, NGKs, 10mm wires, B&M shifter, Moser 9", 4.11s & spooled, custom d-shaft, LCA relocation brackets, BMR t-arm, 26" Hoosier DRs.-------

not only hooking is moving the car, weight transfer is movement. the power of the engine moving something is what your looking for, spinning or launching or pulling the wheels is the result. bogging is the opposite, the weight of the car and traction overcoming the power of the engine.


sway bar, battery relocation, weight reduction,"not just cutting something off but unnecessary stuff",
try the lower holes in the lca relocation brackets , is the bmr arm adjustable? hows your pinion angle?


nitrous will help, but is just a crutch
I have a 30/30 Ill trade for your car


oh yea get a tune,

I had a hypertech my car wouldn't hardly spin and when I got the mail-order tune light em up at will

good luck
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
Junk huh....myself and number of guys have ran some pretty good times on those junk tires....maybe you should run them at 15 psi like most people?
Ill have to try them at 15 psi
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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Sounds like driver error.Not trying to be a A!! either Drop the tires to 15 psi see whats up. Do a test and tune nite and just MAKE 60 ft RUNS TO YOU COME UP WITH A PLAN of attack. Take some videos of your car launching . Trust me this dont come together over nite.Weight transfer,Blowing off the tires launching to hard or not hard enough theres a sweet spot stick or auto it dont matter. Leave at 1000 rpm go up 500 at a time or a 1000 its there some where even on a bald set of tires. JUST DON'T GIVE UP
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LJM97Z
& it still wouldn't 60ft. for sh$t, the 1st. pass i set the pressure @ 22, did a small burn out, pulled up & left @ 4500, it spun a few revalution then hooked (2.0785) 60ft., Here are the other 3 times. dropped pressure back to 18 psi.
What happened to 21 1/2psi, 21psi, 20 1/2psi, 20psi, 19 1/2psi, 19psi? You are being way too impatient. This stuff takes time, hard work, good record keeping, and patience.

When you spun instead of bogging at 22psi you were finally on the right track. You should next try 21psi and if it still spun too much then 20psi. When you get down to where it bogs again then up 1/2psi.

If you're just going to go and try something one time then give up and go back to where it wasn't working anyway maybe you shouldn't go back to the track any more. There is a reason they call it test and tune not test and give up.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
Junk huh....myself and number of guys have ran some pretty good times on those junk tires....maybe you should run them at 15 psi like most people?
What tires are you talking about? The BFGs that he DID NOT get or the Hoosiers that he's running?

And why would he lower his pressure if he's dead hooking and boggging?
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 93DGTA
Sounds like driver error.Not trying to be a A!! either Drop the tires to 15 psi see whats up. Do a test and tune nite and just MAKE 60 ft RUNS TO YOU COME UP WITH A PLAN of attack. Take some videos of your car launching . Trust me this dont come together over nite.Weight transfer,Blowing off the tires launching to hard or not hard enough theres a sweet spot stick or auto it dont matter. Leave at 1000 rpm go up 500 at a time or a 1000 its there some where even on a bald set of tires. JUST DON'T GIVE UP

If he's bogging at 18psi what good is dropping them to 15psi going to do?
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Thanks Al, i laugh too at some of the replies i'm getting, i understand what your saying about not giving up, One problem i am still having is wheel hop, its just pissing me off, i was told to get the LCA relocation brackets & it would cure it, IT DIDN'T, i was going to get a different set of shocks, but i was told the ones i have will be fine, now i'm back to square one on that issue, i know i need to find that area where it 60fts. the best, i just can't have the tires spin too much on the track surface because of the hop, that was one of the reasons i went back to just hooking up & going, heck even in the water box as i'm coming out & the tires start grapping it'll chatter, it sucks.

my main purpose for putting sticky tires on was to hook up, not to spin, i may play around with it some more next month, i have SFCs on the way & i'll look into some better shocks, the DA wasn't good either that night so i'm sure that didn't help matters, i know theres 1.9s in it, maybe even low 1.9s in good air. I'm also thinking of selling off the Hypertech & getting a different tune.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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4.11s can get in the 1.6 range if you try real hard!!
unless you have done weight reduction it is a heavy car to get moving but we did 1.8x 60s with nearly full weight car and a 4.10 gear in a strange 12bolt.

BUT we launch'd the car at 6k+, it needed the RPMs b/c once the car hooked the motor bogged, just as yours is doing.

This is the car at nearly full weight and 4.10s and a 6k dump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVz-Eq4YY0
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