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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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From what I heard if your engine is putting out any power you want to stay away from Nitto especially in a rear wheel drive car. I have these tires on my 94 caprice 275/50/15 and they last good (street driving)........but at the track they are "ok". Before the new engine I was able to get them to do almost consistent mid 1.8's. Since the new engine I have only had 8 trips down the strip and my sixty's have ranged from 1.74 to 1.99. Heat them up!
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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I ended up snagging a set of Nittos. It's all I could get on short notice, and the sidewalls on my BFG's were toast. They worked out well for me on sunday, cutting consistant 1.9 60ft times. Although we'll see if they handle a head and cam upgrade in the near future. Thanks for the input fellas.
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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The Nitto's will be ok till you get a good stall converter. I have pulled a 1.43 on the Mickey Thompson DR's. "Cam only" LS1 with a 4600 stall and 3:42 gears. Average for me is 1.46 to 1.47.
Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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The Nitto's will be ok till you get a good stall converter. I have pulled a 1.43 on the Mickey Thompson DR's. "Cam only" LS1 with a 4600 stall and 3:42 gears. Average for me is 1.46 to 1.47.
those are some damn low 60ft #'s... congrats
Old May 1, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DMcRacer
The Nitto's will be ok till you get a good stall converter. I have pulled a 1.43 on the Mickey Thompson DR's. "Cam only" LS1 with a 4600 stall and 3:42 gears. Average for me is 1.46 to 1.47.
What cam are you running?
Old May 1, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DMcRacer
The Nitto's will be ok till you get a good stall converter. I have pulled a 1.43 on the Mickey Thompson DR's. "Cam only" LS1 with a 4600 stall and 3:42 gears. Average for me is 1.46 to 1.47.
whats size DRs/tires

i have them on my stick 17- 275wide

i def dont plan in 1.4 60s but i am looking for sub 1.8s

what are people doing on 17" rims??
Old May 2, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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WIth the BFG's, I was able to cut a quite a few 1.6's 60's on 17in rims the tires were 275's. So for daily driving and wanting to cut a good 60' then BFG's are the way to go. Nitto hasnt made anything I've liked in a while other than some of their meaty truck tires. The M/t et streets are pretty much slicks and not safe to drive on the road. I just used those this weekend on my 15in bogarts and they hooked just as good as my slicks.
Sorry to thread hyjack but Daaaaaayuuum! I just saw your myspace page.

Ok Back on topic if I can focus....

I agree My MT's DR'sw are awesome and I only run them at the track, hual um with me when I go, and take them off when I leave there. I think they are the best. On the street Nittos and BFGs are pretty close in tire wear, and on the strip bout the same on traction. I guess 15,000 miles on a set of tires on a "almost daily driver" is acceptable to some but I would advise thay you get some tires that you use on the street that will last longer then 15,000 miles, and a set of tires for the track.

You agree that the Nittos, and BFGs dont hook as well as the MT's so you screw youself both ways you have a street tire that doesnt last very long at all (although better then the 5,000 unsafe MT DR's, but not like a Toyo, Khumo or something that gets more miles) and then at the track you dont get the traction a drag tire can.

I guess its not a sweet medium or compromise for me but a selling yourself short in tire logevity, and traction. Never getting a true street tire, or drag tire. Just my opinion, and I am far from an authority on anything.

Now then back to supragrl93...
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by godspeed1976
You agree that the Nittos, and BFGs dont hook as well as the MT's so you screw youself both ways you have a street tire that doesnt last very long at all (although better then the 5,000 unsafe MT DR's, but not like a Toyo, Khumo or something that gets more miles) and then at the track you dont get the traction a drag tire can.

I guess its not a sweet medium or compromise for me but a selling yourself short in tire logevity, and traction. Never getting a true street tire, or drag tire. Just my opinion, and I am far from an authority on anything.
But you're lumping everyone into one basket. You're assuming that they won't hook any car. For those that run 300ish hp or less with a stock torque converter or M6 with stock rear the Nittos are all that you need. So why would you want to have 2 sets of rear tires? And have to carry them and the tools to change them to the track, take the time to put them on and worse yet to change back to street tires in the dark before you go home if you don't have to????
If, and if is a big word, you can't hook with the Nittos then another plan is necessary. But for many the Nitto drag radial is the perfect tire.
Old May 2, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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But you're lumping everyone into one basket. You're assuming that they won't hook any car. For those that run 300ish hp or less with a stock torque converter or M6 with stock rear the Nittos are all that you need. So why would you want to have 2 sets of rear tires? And have to carry them and the tools to change them to the track, take the time to put them on and worse yet to change back to street tires in the dark before you go home if you don't have to????
If, and if is a big word, you can't hook with the Nittos then another plan is necessary. But for many the Nitto drag radial is the perfect tire.
true... but if i am going to buy a tire for the track and im gonna spend the $$ i want the best u can buy.... just my .02
Old May 2, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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But for many the Nitto drag radial is the perfect tire.
Good, and acceptable I can agree with but perfect I dont really agree with. I understand its a pain to swap and lug around tires, but its just track prep. If you really are interested in good launches, and lower ETs you will be pulling sway bars, dropping off your spare, and jack, over inflating your fronts if you dont have skinnys, etc etc. Just a little praice to pay to eeek out a fast 60'. I think its worth it. Its not that big a deal to swap out tires for me. Drag Radials are just not worthy street tires to me cause they wear out so darn fast. 15,000 miles is an average of what I have seem people get out Nittos, or BFGs so you going to be buying tires before I will have to replace my true street tires or my MT DRs. Not to mention my street tires are going to save you money.

Yeah with not much power the Nitto will serve you VERY well as a track tire, but add those burn outs, and launches to your street use and you'll have bald tires in no time. Thats all Im trying to say just seems like a waist cause there is no medium for great traction, and longevity in a tire. The BFGs, and Nittos are about as close as they come, but your left with bald tires in just 15K and a empty wallet from the higher price.

You and I both know a MT DR is going to be the better track tire, and if they add more power before they are used up then they have the tire there already to maxiumize it.

No biggie to each there own, I just think its not worth it.
Old May 2, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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My cam is a custom grind.

I'm running the 275/50/15's on 15x10 drag stars. And my suspension is pretty simple. Up front I have hals and no front sway bar. In the rear I have non-adjustable BMR phb and lca's, rubber/polly busings. Stock shocks, springs, and roll bar on the stock 10-bolt with 3:42 gears. I also have BMR boxed sfc's and a bolt in 6 point cage.
Old May 3, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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The MT drag radials in action
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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Man I've got to get some vids and pics of my car so I can see if my front end jumps up like that!! Do you run without a sway bar DM?
Old May 4, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by godspeed1976
Man I've got to get some vids and pics of my car so I can see if my front end jumps up like that!! Do you run without a sway bar DM?

No front sway bar. Stock rear sway, I need a good heavy duty sway bar on the rear.
Old May 4, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Here is a video when I tried open headers. Video is not that great. Went 10.79 on that pass.
http://video.ls1tech.com/Player.aspx...F-135EC50C81B0



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