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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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Can you repair a ET street?

A freind of mine pick up a nail in a st street. He cant find a tube for it. And everyone tells him they cant crew that type of rim anyways. You cant patch that type of tire. What options does he have besides buying a new set. Any other options maybe fix-a-flat.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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just buy tubes. i had the same thing happen to me. you can't patch them but tubes are available. i think it cost me almost 90.00 for both the tubes though
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Sounds like he drives them on the street, which is not too bright IMHO. Anyway, he should have had tubes in them in the first place and sure needs them now.

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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he bought a tube for it. But the valve stem is a center mount. he needs it to come out on the side.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip_tubes.html

I take it your friend isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

If this is simply beyond him, have him take it to a place that specializes in truck/farm equipment. They can deal with the tube for him. Hopefully he doesn't go fast enough to require rim screws.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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lmao @ what you said!!!!!! especially if he goes fast enuff to warrant screwing the tires to the rims!
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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no hes only running 12.1s. just put headers on it and did some programing. Hope to be in the 11s. But thanks for the smart *** comment. You know. I come on here to ask a question. Well dont worry about me asking anymore questions on here. Some of you guys on ths site mkaes it worth while. But one bad apple spoils the bunch. This site I thought was to help other people out.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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i agree with Zeeya. i also know the guy who bought the tube, and he is not the first person to get one that is designed for the valve stem to be mounted in the center of the wheel. when the stem is mounted here, it makes contact with the caliper. no need to flame anybody for this.

rskrause, he picked up a nail or something at darlington. how many people do you really think run tubes in their ET Streets? the only reason they are recomended is because of the low pressures they are run at makes it easy to break the bead on a launch. also, I run ET Streets on the street all the time. why do you think it is such a horrid idea? If the car is only driven on nice days and the pressure is run around 20psi, they drive awesome on the street. they actually drive better than a lot of street tires i have tried. they may not corner quite as well, but they are much sturdier than the light truck tirs on my astro van!

TNTHUB & taner, no need to flame anybody. the guy ordered a tube from summit and this is what he got! as for screwing rims, you could warrant screws in the rims running 1.8 60's if the tire does not seal too well. if you got your best launch at, say 8psi, then you are going to launch at 8 psi right? and if you do decide to launch at 8 psi and have a decent car (even 350rwhp), you can slip the rims and would warrant screwing the tires to the rims.

some of the people on this board are great for info, including some of the people i saw respond to this. i am always reminded that everybody is capable of being an *** on these forums. somebody was asking an honest question that was just looking for a good answer, and people shot him down.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Im with Zeeya and monte on this Chris is a very good guy and all there trying too do is get some help but it must not be here.I also had the same problem that chris had and no I got a screw that one of you fast guys must have lost out your wheels and as far as how fast he runs what does that matter.I have been dragracing most likely since most of you were ****tin green if at all and you make me sick!!
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Wow, some of you are a little too sensitive, maybe? Some people run ET Streets without tubes. Some people use them on the street. If you want to, go ahead. But you asked for opinions/advice and got it. If you don't like it, don't take it and do what you want.

As far as the rationale for using tubes, it's primarily that most people run these tires at low pressure, where they work best as drag tires, what they were designed for. The danger is that the bead may disengage from the rim, leading to tire deflation. Not a good thing at 120, 130, or even 140mph which some of our cars are capable of in the 1/4 mile. Mine give the best 60' times at 12-13psi. If you watch a slo-mo video of the launch at that tire pressure, you can see the rim compress the tire all the way down to the track surface and wrinkle up the sidewall. I don't know, and don't want to find out the hard way, if this would result in pressure loss. That's also the reason I use rim screws. If you want to run at higher pressure, it's less of an issue, but the tires won't work as well.

These tires aren't designed for street use. The limp sidewall will give squirrelly handling in an emergency or if you just try to corner fast. They will build up a lot of heat which can lead to catastrophic failure. Obviously, they can be deadly if it rains given the lack of tread.

If you can't afford tubes, or a tire in decent condition, don't run the car at the track until you can. One bad accident would likely bankrupt a small track like the one we run at locally, so don't spoil things for the rest of us even if you don't want to save your own ***.

BTW: I have no problem taking the car around the block or something on ET Streets, or full slicks for that matter. But that isn't what I mean by "street driving". I have seen morons on the expressway at 70mph with these things. That's just plain stupid, IMHO.

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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rskrause, i have seen a lot of good advise come from you before. however, the original question had nothing to do with driving on the street with ET Streets and that was where you flamed him. you also said he should have ran tubes before and now he neesds them . even if he was running tubes, he would still have picked up the screw and needed a fix.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Yes your right but at the sametime you don't have too be on the hiway to get punture either right. I myself have never ran tubes in mine now I don't pull but 1.50's 60' and never had a problem with them going flat.But at jackson I ran mine a little to far down the track too keep from stabbing the brakes and went thru a area where very few cars go and picked up a screw.But trying to set the record straight is he just asked was there a way to fix the et. street after a punture that was it! Or was there any other options.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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I guess I misunderstood the first post. I thought he said he picked up a nail on the street. It still wasn't a flame. A flame is saying "you are not too bright" vs. what I said, which is that using ET Streets on the street is not too bright of an idea. Many otherwise smart people do stupid things. I, for one, didn't leave my nice Camaro alone and insisted on a "few mods". Look where it got me

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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I want to apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intention. I learned about tubes and tires when I was probably six-eight years old and working on bicycles. It just never dawned on me that tubes were complicated. No offence was intended, it was just the way the question was worded that drew my attention and I decided to poke a bit of fun at the situation.

I figure the normal way to resolve an issue such as this, or any other technical issue would be to contact the manufacturer, receive advice from the manufacturer, and implement the advice. At that point myself and many others get stuck on something because something about our own situation is different than anticipated.

Inner tubes, tires, rims, and associated hardware like rim screws, and stuff like soap, air, and talc are pretty basic tire changing 101 items. I was simply interhecting a bit of humor into my response. No flame intended.

From the sound of the initial post, the person with the flat was a novice. Thats just the way it reads. Advice to not drive on the street is good advice with those tires. I know some guys don't use tubes and some do drive on the street. I go by the book when it comes to tires. I have been laughed at because of all the screws in my rims, but I have not had a problem either. It is easy to get a flat at the track and I have seen it happen too many times.

Good luck getting your problem resolved.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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zeeya,

thanks for the pm. i did a search cause i had no idea what the hell you were talking about! sorry for finding another comment someone made to be a little funny.

now i will move on......



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