Guys,

Finally considering biting the bullet and getting a wideband o2 for my car so I can better tune in PE mode. Anyone have reccs for a good one, as I am also considering a datamaster type guage on the pillar. Also, good place to buy that's not too much? Any reccs is greatly appreciated.

 

Dave, I recommend either the Innovate or the FAST one. The Innovate setup has some pretty cool features and is very accurrate as it has some calibration logic that some others do not.
I actually have both, the Innovate LM1 is permantly mounted in my GN because the ECM reads the analog signal from it for fueling.
The FAST I use because its easily portable from car to car and it very small handheld unit that can record and playback everything right on the hand held unit....the Innovate must be hooked up to a computer with the supplied Logworks software in order to playback...I also have some other Innovate accessories that allow me to record 5 other 5v inputs also with the same software..

Here's the links to each of them..and Full Throttle's owner Mike Lietch is a great guy that I've met several times at the Buick Nationals.
http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/ite...23~eq~~Tp~.htm

http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products...er/default.asp

Also, the main reason I got the FAST setup is it can have dual O2 inputs so you can monitor both banks at the same time...and huge time saver for a V8 app..didn't need that in the GN since its monitoring after the turbo / single pipe.
If you want the FAST setup, you can find them on retailers on eBay for alot cheaper than the price from FAST on the link above...the link above says $613 for the dual setup, I got it brand new on eBay for $400 from these folks, make them an offer instead of the buy it now price and they should take it for around $400-415 if I remember correctly.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FAST-...QQcmdZViewItem

 

We carry a variety of Innovate Motorsports widebands, and have been very happy with their products for years. Below I have listed some of there most popular setups.



1) The Basic Kit includes the LM-1 meter, a Bosch wide-band oxygen sensor, 10 ft sensor cable, cigarette-lighter power adapter, serial cable for PC connection, 9V battery, exhaust bung and plug, CD and quick-start guide.

2) The RPM Kit is comprised of the basic kit plus the LMA-2 (RPM Converter.) This cable contains a circuit to convert a tach signal into an analog RPM signal that can be logged by the LM-1. This cable also has 4 additional terminal screws to tap into and log other 0-5 V analog sensors from your vehicle.

3) The AuxBox Kit iss comprised of the basic kit plus the LMA-3 (AuxBox) input Expander Cable. The AuxBox will give you the choice of picking sensors existing from the vehicle or use the 5 internal sensors. The five internal sensors are: RPM conversion (from a tach signal or inductive clamp), Manifold Air Pressure (MAP or Boost), Cylinder Head Temperature (CHT) or Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT), Acceleration, and Injector Duty Cycle (Dwell). Read more about the LMA-3 (AuxBox)

4)The basic LC-1 kit ncludes the LC-1, sensor, cd which includes software and manuals, bung and plug, and a serial cable to connect to the PC.

5) The Standalone Gauge Kit includes the LC-1, sensor, XD-16 digital gauge, cd which includes software and manuals, bung and plug, and a serial cable to connect to the PC

6)The DB-Blue or DB-Red Gauge can be purchased as an accessory to be used with the LC-1 or LM-1. These kits includes the DB Gauge, mounting hardware, CD and quick-start guide.

7)The DB-Blue or DB-Red Gauge Kit comes complete with the patented award-winning LC-1 Wideband Controller, DB Gauge, Bosch 5-wire Wideband 02 Sensor, Bung/Plug Kit, Software CD, and quick start guide

 

Dynojet Wideband Commander works well and can be had for a good price on ebay.

 

Another vote for Dynojet's Wideband Commander.

-WB O2 (obviously)
- black or white-face gauge with warning light for permanent install. (again, pretty standard)
- built in memory for logging @ 10 frames/sec AND the option of continous logging to laptop. (nice touch if you have your laptop dedicated to logging the OBD datastream instead)
- RPM/tac input (again, pretty standard) PLUS 2 more analog inputs (0-5V... making logging more fun )... say tap the TB position and an aftermarket Fuel pressure? or maybe a TB and MAP/boost signal? with the right voltage step down you could even use the OEM clutch sensor or brake light circuit to know when braking or shifting during a logging session (if you like to log when you race for example).

- solenoid/relay ouput control... turn on your nitrous system and engauge nitrous retard (through either OEM PCM, MSD box, LTCC, or anything else that takes a signal input to engauge a couple degrees of retard). This feature is very cool... hell I guess you could even set it up as a A/F safety measure if you didn't have a need for it... damn fuel pumps go south all the time.

not a cheap kit mind you, but very competative if you plan on using all it's options.

What does it NOT have? a NB output to feed the OEM PCM. This is by design however, as replacing and simulating a NB signal can cause problems in some PCM's, so they reccomend the safer route of welding in a O2 bung specificly for WB and retaining the OEM NB sensors. Not sure if I totally agree with this, but it doesn't hurt to let things be.

 

All those are great and really expensive. Check this one out: http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm I might be selling my LM1 soon.

 

Pricey, but dual-band, with a relay/alarm output:

http://www.altronicsinc.com/pages/o2alert.html

 

dual channel... nice touch.

I wonder if they have an 8-channel in development?