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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Not really.. i thought i was going to get a lot more emails...

TC has been doing obd2 work so... i guess... a little help i can give is not bad.
Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Not really.. i thought i was going to get a lot more emails...

TC has been doing obd2 work so... i guess... a little help i can give is not bad.

if you look in the new ee$ def file and then look at the calibration help and in the drop down box for the constants tables you will see a table there called "Openloop% change fuel/air ratio at idle" but its not in the table itself its only it the help menu
Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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The table is there...

its one of the important tables there.
Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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The table is there...

its one of the important tables there.

its not i my constant tables nowhere, but all the other new stuff is there.

how far down the costants table is it.
Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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Hey Highlander, did you get my email? I sent it a few hours after your posting.

I sent my current ee.tdf, haven't heard from you. Perhaps a spamblocker blocked the email?

Thanks,
-Christian
Old Sep 7, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Tuning closed loop idle

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Hey Highlander, did you get my email? I sent it a few hours after your posting.

I sent my current ee.tdf, haven't heard from you. Perhaps a spamblocker blocked the email?

Thanks,
-Christian
Hey chris.. I did send you your file very very quickly!!!!!

Email me again.. or post on my forum where you have access and i will put it up there if you wish....

highlander@cartechpr.com
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Sorry if I sounded accusatory, not my intention, but after re-reading my post I can see how it would be interpreted that way.

I appreciate you taking the time to help everyone out here. Futhermore if my mail server blocks an email from you then it's certainly not your fault. :^)

I'll send you an email from another address where I can definitely receive files.

Thanks again for you help, Cool looking forum BTW, I appreciate the invite.
-Christian

Originally Posted by The Highlander
Hey chris.. I did send you your file very very quickly!!!!!

Email me again.. or post on my forum where you have access and i will put it up there if you wish....

highlander@cartechpr.com
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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Never accusatory comming from you...

FYI.. i just sent that mail twice right now.. to the reply address AND to the address you sent me.. the address you sent me doesn't accept emails...

My forum is very liberal... and we can have attachments and such which is a LOT easier to help people out...

http://www.cartechpr.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=331

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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks Chris, Got the update, I appreciate it.

I'm researching the Gmail issue now, I might have been inactive for too long.

Thanks again,
-Christian
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Ok this sucks ones again, I finally had some time to try out the new features of tunercat IE. Intergrator values (STFT) max/min values, I needed to make the max around 135 with maf table altered for idle & min trim to 120 because at times the PCM pulls too much fuel & big cams running at 14.7 AFR tend to surge, I noticed by richening her up a bit she gets better in open loop, these new intergrator values would allow me to trim in closed loop as in make the PCM trim to say maybe 14.0 instead of 14.7 at cruise, & lean her out at idle cuz of the overlap to make the idle smoother.

Anywho! I tried the stupid integrators & they don't seem to work, I set the min to 120 to start off & the STFT still went to 113 & 108 or whatever they used to before but they seem to not want to stay there for long now so they still go lower then the MIN value but they keep resetting more often. What the heck is this, the min before was 64 & max was 192, I set the min to 120 & max to 130 & they overshoot & undershoot.

I'm kinda pissed off cuz I thought the STFT wouldn't go lower then 120 & higher then 130 on my test.

Is there something else in the PCM that allows the PCM to maybe overshoot those values for a split second or something? like to make slight adjustments that don't last long or something?

Anywho thought i'd share my experiences.

Matt.
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Well... it could be that the integrators have an incorrect scale...

but do you see any changes in the max and mins when you change them?
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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No none, stock they were 64/192 now they are 120/130 just for a test, they still go below & above that, my STFT still hit 108 if they feel like it, what is going on?

Weird.
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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I really don't know.. i would have to check a bit on it... really.. since i don't have my car, i can't try it out... but will let you know what i find out...
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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well I mean I check it out & did save the changes, I even set the LTFT to 120/130 just to make sure aswell as the integrators with no luck!

Well hope someone else can chime in.

Matt.
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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http://www.tunercat.com/pdfs/pcm_$85.pdf

check that out

there are a few parameters that if supported by the LT1 would solve this problem once and for all..

Like the FORCE OPEN LOOP vs TPS and Speed mph?? hehe



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