Computer Diagnostics and Tuning Technical discussion on diagnostics and programming of the F-body computers

Scan9495 Observations?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-28-2018, 04:10 PM
  #16  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
KYWes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 449
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Guess I better start shopping around for an ECM.
KYWes is offline  
Old 07-28-2018, 04:29 PM
  #17  
Prominent Member
 
GaryDoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Born on the Florida West Coast, now where can I retire?
Posts: 1,505
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Originally Posted by Injuneer
Another piece of the puzzle, possibly pointing to the PCM.

In several instances, the end of the defective data line shows DTC 86. I assumed this was just a bogus code, because it isn’t referenced in the factory manual. But I did a Google search on GM OBD1 Trouble Code 86, and found it is a code (at least in some other vehicles) for:
https://repairpal.com/gm-obd-code-86
KYWes: is the engine experiencing any noticeable “hiccups” that might correspond to these data faults.
Weird. At first I would have written that off as a glitch, but every time the 86 code appears, the next line shows one (1) trouble code. Never seen anything like that.
GaryDoug is offline  
Old 07-28-2018, 04:33 PM
  #18  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
KYWes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 449
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Yes, I think there are some momentary anomalies like idling burps from what I remember.
KYWes is offline  
Old 07-28-2018, 04:42 PM
  #19  
Prominent Member
 
GaryDoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Born on the Florida West Coast, now where can I retire?
Posts: 1,505
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

If you can run another scan with the Comms screen enabled, save the Comms screen results to file, and post it, I may be able to see if the PCM is issuing a correct checksum for the bad data. That would really put the blame on the pcm's internal operation.
GaryDoug is offline  
Old 07-29-2018, 01:48 PM
  #20  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
KYWes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 449
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Gary, here's the Comms data you asked for. I haven't reviewed it yet but when I was logging this run I didn't see the DTC flash red so I'm wondering if the car is being a kid going to see the doctor.;-)
Attached Files
KYWes is offline  
Old 07-29-2018, 02:24 PM
  #21  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
KYWes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 449
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Here's a second recording. I did see some DTC86s in the corresponding datalog.
Attached Files
File Type: txt
KYWes-Obd1Log-2018Jul29-1509.txt (1,012.6 KB, 27 views)
KYWes is offline  
Old 07-29-2018, 02:29 PM
  #22  
Prominent Member
 
GaryDoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Born on the Florida West Coast, now where can I retire?
Posts: 1,505
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

The problem does show up in this file. The data is being shifted one space to the right randomly early in the data string. I don't know what is causing that, but I doubt it is caused by the pcm. It could just be some electrical noise on the data line or the 12v power to the pcm, a bad cable, or a bug in the program. But I haven't seen that symptom too much before this. The program correctly fails the line with a bad checksum message and restarts the process. Apparently the program does not discard the bad data however. I will look into that.
GaryDoug is offline  
Old 12-14-2018, 05:24 AM
  #23  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
KYWes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 449
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Gary, wondering if you've had time to research this?

The problem does show up in this file. The data is being shifted one space to the right randomly early in the data string. I don't know what is causing that, but I doubt it is caused by the pcm. It could just be some electrical noise on the data line or the 12v power to the pcm, a bad cable, or a bug in the program. But I haven't seen that symptom too much before this. The program correctly fails the line with a bad checksum message and restarts the process. Apparently the program does not discard the bad data however. I will look into that.
KYWes is offline  
Old 12-15-2018, 07:46 AM
  #24  
Prominent Member
 
GaryDoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Born on the Florida West Coast, now where can I retire?
Posts: 1,505
Re: Scan9495 Observations?

Originally Posted by KYWes
Gary, wondering if you've had time to research this?
Nope. Can't seem to duplicate it.
GaryDoug is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
97'Z-28
Computer Diagnostics and Tuning
12
04-28-2008 11:03 PM
95z28man
LT1 Based Engine Tech
15
04-16-2008 05:28 AM
Craddock
LT1 Based Engine Tech
2
06-09-2006 10:44 AM
kochisp
LT1 Based Engine Tech
19
04-20-2005 02:25 PM
InjectedSS
Computer Diagnostics and Tuning
17
10-20-2003 10:40 PM



Quick Reply: Scan9495 Observations?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 AM.