I'm objective because I'm not making false and inaccurate statements and don't have an obvious contempt for Hypertech or any other tuner. Your 4 years worth of tuning experience tells me nothing, especially after going over your errors. Simply, your claims aren't verifiable. If I am able to post the VE and timing tables it will be my last post in this thread and it won't be for you.

 

No, you aren't objective, what you are doing is attempting to make the money you threw away on Hypertech seem like a good buy. That's not objective. I was objective about Hypertech before I had a chance to go over their calibration files and find that they don't actually change anything other than a few simple things. You seem to be really big on this whole "I'm not biased issue because..." Well, guess what again? You can be objective but still come to a conclusion that is biased against another's conclusion.

You conclusion that Hypertech is a worthwhile product is based on your view that you could feel the difference. No other data to back up your claims, only that you can feel the difference. This is anecdotal evidence, and it's useless.

My conclusion is based on actually working with these vehicles, doing the tuning, comparing the calibration files, AND seeing the results on a dyno first hand. And I'm not the only one, you can ask just about anyone else that has been into these cars and their PCMs for the past 5 years, and you'll get the exact same results.

I'll be posting the comparisons between my stock 94 Z28 calibration file and the HPP+ calibration file for a 94 Z28 later on.

 

Here are the spart advance tables for the stock 94 Camaro Z28 LT1, 4000+

35.0 41.0 43.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 41.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 40.0 40.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 41.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 39.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 39.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 40.0 40.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 36.0 36.0 36.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 40.0 38.0 38.0 38.0

Here are the tables for the HPP+ 94 LT1 Camaro Z28, 4000+

35.0 41.0 43.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 41.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 40.0 40.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 41.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 39.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 40.0 39.0 39.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 40.0 40.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 35.0 35.0 33.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 39.0 38.0 37.0 36.0 36.0 36.0
35.0 40.0 44.0 44.0 43.0 42.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 41.0 40.0 38.0 38.0 38.0

The look exactly the same to me

Edited to add 4000+ to the end of the HPP portion

 

Here are the stock VE Main tables for a 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

48.4 52.7 55.1 56.6 58.2 60.2 62.1 64.1 66.0 67.6 68.8 69.9 70.3 71.1 71.9 73.4 74.6
50.8 54.7 57.4 59.4 62.1 64.1 65.6 67.6 69.5 70.3 71.1 71.9 72.7 73.4 74.2 75.0 76.2
51.6 56.3 58.6 61.3 64.1 66.0 68.0 69.1 70.3 71.1 72.3 73.0 74.2 75.4 76.6 77.3 78.5
53.1 57.8 61.3 64.5 66.4 68.0 69.5 71.5 72.7 74.2 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 80.1
55.9 60.5 63.3 66.4 68.8 70.7 72.3 73.0 74.2 75.0 75.8 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.9
58.6 62.5 66.0 68.0 70.7 71.9 73.8 74.6 75.8 77.0 78.1 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.5 81.3
60.5 65.6 68.0 70.3 71.9 73.0 74.2 75.8 77.0 77.7 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.9 81.6
62.5 67.2 69.5 71.5 73.4 74.6 75.8 77.0 77.7 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.5 81.3 82.0
64.1 68.8 71.1 73.4 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 79.7 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8

Here are the VE Main tables for the HPP+ 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

48.4 52.7 55.1 56.6 58.2 60.2 62.1 64.1 66.0 67.6 68.8 69.9 70.3 71.1 71.9 73.4 74.6
50.8 54.7 57.4 59.4 62.1 64.1 65.6 67.6 69.5 70.3 71.1 71.9 72.7 73.4 74.2 75.0 76.2
51.6 56.3 58.6 61.3 64.1 66.0 68.0 69.1 70.3 71.1 72.3 73.0 74.2 75.4 76.6 77.3 78.5
53.1 57.8 61.3 64.5 66.4 68.0 69.5 71.5 72.7 74.2 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 80.1
55.9 60.5 63.3 66.4 68.8 70.7 72.3 73.0 74.2 75.0 75.8 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.9
58.6 62.5 66.0 68.0 70.7 71.9 73.8 74.6 75.8 77.0 78.1 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.5 81.3
60.5 65.6 68.0 70.3 71.9 73.0 74.2 75.8 77.0 77.7 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.9 81.6
62.5 67.2 69.5 71.5 73.4 74.6 75.8 77.0 77.7 78.5 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.5 81.3 82.0
64.1 68.8 71.1 73.4 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 79.7 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8

Again, exactly the same.

 

Here are the VE extended tables for the stock 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

64.1 68.8 71.1 73.4 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 79.7 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8
64.8 69.5 71.9 73.8 75.8 77.0 77.3 78.5 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 83.2
65.6 70.3 72.7 74.6 76.6 77.7 78.1 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.0
66.0 70.7 73.0 75.0 77.0 78.1 78.5 78.9 79.7 80.5 80.5 81.3 81.3 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.4
66.4 71.1 73.4 75.4 77.3 78.5 78.9 79.3 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.4
66.8 71.5 73.8 75.8 77.7 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.6 84.8
67.2 71.9 74.2 76.2 78.1 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.2 84.0 85.2
67.6 72.3 74.6 76.6 78.5 79.7 79.7 80.5 81.3 81.3 82.0 82.0 82.8 83.6 83.6 84.4 85.9
68.0 72.7 75.0 77.0 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.5 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.0 84.4 85.2 86.7
68.8 73.0 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.1 80.5 81.3 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.6 84.4 85.2 85.9 86.7 88.3
69.5 73.4 75.8 77.7 79.7 80.5 81.3 82.0 82.8 83.2 83.6 84.4 85.2 85.9 87.1 88.3 89.8
70.7 75.0 77.0 78.9 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8 84.0 84.8 85.9 86.7 87.5 88.3 89.1 90.2 91.8
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2

Here are the VE extended tables for HPP+ 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

64.1 68.8 71.1 73.4 75.0 76.2 77.0 78.1 78.9 79.3 79.7 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8
64.8 69.5 71.9 73.8 75.8 77.0 77.3 78.5 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 83.2
65.6 70.3 72.7 74.6 76.6 77.7 78.1 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.0
66.0 70.7 73.0 75.0 77.0 78.1 78.5 78.9 79.7 80.5 80.5 81.3 81.3 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.4
66.4 71.1 73.4 75.4 77.3 78.5 78.9 79.3 80.1 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.4
66.8 71.5 73.8 75.8 77.7 78.9 79.3 79.7 80.5 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.6 84.8
67.2 71.9 74.2 76.2 78.1 79.3 79.7 80.1 80.9 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.2 84.0 85.2
67.6 72.3 74.6 76.6 78.5 79.7 79.7 80.5 81.3 81.3 82.0 82.0 82.8 83.6 83.6 84.4 85.9
68.0 72.7 75.0 77.0 78.9 79.7 80.1 80.5 81.3 81.6 82.0 82.4 83.2 84.0 84.4 85.2 86.7
68.8 73.0 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.1 80.5 81.3 82.0 82.4 82.8 83.6 84.4 85.2 85.9 86.7 88.3
69.5 73.4 75.8 77.7 79.7 80.5 81.3 82.0 82.8 83.2 83.6 84.4 85.2 85.9 87.1 88.3 89.8
70.7 75.0 77.0 78.9 80.5 80.9 81.6 82.8 84.0 84.8 85.9 86.7 87.5 88.3 89.1 90.2 91.8
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2
71.1 75.4 77.3 79.3 80.9 81.3 82.0 83.2 84.4 85.2 86.3 87.1 87.9 88.7 89.5 90.6 92.2

No changes, again

 

Here are the Open Loop vs Coolant Temp vs MAP tables for the 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

8.0 8.0 8.0 8.0 7.9 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.6 7.6 7.6 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5
8.8 8.8 8.7 8.6 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1
10.1 10.1 10.1 10.1 10.0 9.9 9.7 9.6 9.5 9.4 9.3 9.3 9.2 9.2 9.2 9.2 9.2
10.9 10.9 10.9 10.9 10.9 10.8 10.6 10.5 10.5 10.4 10.2 10.1 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0
11.5 11.5 11.5 11.5 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.9 10.7 10.6 10.4 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3
13.6 13.6 13.6 13.6 13.4 13.2 13.1 13.0 12.9 12.8 12.6 11.8 11.0 11.0 11.0 11.0 11.0
13.9 13.9 13.9 13.9 13.8 13.7 13.4 13.3 13.2 13.0 12.8 12.2 11.3 11.3 11.3 11.3 11.3
14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.0 13.8 13.7 13.5 13.4 13.1 13.0 11.7 11.7 11.7 11.7 11.7
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 13.1 12.0 12.0 12.0
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 13.3 12.4 12.4 12.4
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.8 12.8 12.8
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.0 13.8 13.7 13.5 13.4 13.1 13.0 12.9 12.9 12.9 12.9 12.9

Here are the Open Loop vs Coolant Temp vs MAP for the HPP 94 Camaro Z28 LT1

8.0 8.0 8.0 8.0 7.9 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.6 7.6 7.6 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5
8.8 8.8 8.7 8.6 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1 8.1
10.1 10.1 10.1 10.1 10.0 9.9 9.7 9.6 9.5 9.4 9.3 9.3 9.2 9.2 9.2 9.2 9.2
10.9 10.9 10.9 10.9 10.9 10.8 10.6 10.5 10.5 10.4 10.2 10.1 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0
11.5 11.5 11.5 11.5 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.9 10.7 10.6 10.4 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.3
13.6 13.6 13.6 13.6 13.4 13.2 13.1 13.0 12.9 12.8 12.6 11.8 11.0 11.0 11.0 11.0 11.0
13.9 13.9 13.9 13.9 13.8 13.7 13.4 13.3 13.2 13.0 12.8 12.2 11.3 11.3 11.3 11.3 11.3
14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.0 13.8 13.7 13.5 13.4 13.1 13.0 11.7 11.7 11.7 11.7 11.7
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 13.1 12.0 12.0 12.0
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 13.3 12.4 12.4 12.4
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.8 12.8 12.8
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 14.2 12.9 12.9 12.9
14.3 14.3 14.3 14.3 14.2 14.0 13.8 13.7 13.5 13.4 13.1 13.0 12.9 12.9 12.9 12.9 12.9

Even for Open Loop operation, there is still no changes

 

As anyone can plainly see, there are no changes in 4 of the very important tables for power production on the LT1. I could go through every single table and post the results here, but I really don't have to.

So, still think HPP changes the timing tables for WOT operation? And just what errors might you be talking about that I made. Those tables are exactly what I said they were. Z28_95RIDE, the errors are yours for actually thinking Hypertech did something.

If anyone wants a copy of these files, I'll be happy to send them