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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Moates Autoprom

Haven't been around in awhile so I'm a little out of touch, so please excuse my questions if they sound dumba$$.

I'm looking to tune my 93 LT1 (Speed Density), car. It's highly modified, forged stroker, LS1 Coil setup (LTCC Setup), AFR Heads, 42lb Injectors, LT4 Intake, etc. etc. PCMForless tune and chip already installed).

When I last considered buying my own tuning software, you needed a Pocket Programmer and I believe a UV eraser. From my new research it appears that the Moates AutoProm will handle these functions, as well as allow on the fly programming changes.

So my questions are:

1. Have I read correctly, will the Autoprom allow "In Car" programming? How is this accomplished? It appears that you connect to the PCM with the supplied cable and the hardware emulates the chip being installed in the PCM socket. I'm guessing that you can then make changes to the chip "on the fly", and when done, unplug the emulator, and put the chip in the PCM socket.

2. My previous research tells me that the correct chip is the 27C256. Is this correct for the 1993 LT1? Do I still need to get a UV Erasor.

3. The hardware comes with a TunerPro RT License. Is this software all that I need?

4. I already have a USB Version of the Moates ALDL cable. This appears to be the exact same version that comes with the AutoProm. If so I'm going to try and contact them this coming Monday or Teusday and see if they'll sell me the hardware for a little cheaper.

It looks like this is going to run around $325.00, and thought that's a little pricey for the amount of times that I expect to tune, it will be worth it because I can trade this hardware and software with a tuner friend of mine that has a Dyno, for the tune and dyno time.

Anyways, thanks for the time in advance.

Mark.
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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the best item for tuning 93's and all prom vehicles is the moates ostrich, real time tuning, make instant changes with cats rt tuner, even leave it in your car full time if you want too:

http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...roducts_id=169

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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I use the Autoprom for my 93 Lt1 and it emulates and datalogs simultaneously using TunerPro RT. You don't need a UV eraser, the chips are electronically erasable. I use the AT29c256 chips, though you can use others. It does come with a built in burner if you don't want to leave the AutoProm hooked up all the time. Changes can be made "on the fly" without any hiccups. Your basically running off of the bin file that's currently loaded Autoprom and make changes to that using TunerPro Rt or Tuner Cat RT. I like TunerPro better due to being able to datalog while tuning. You can't do that with any other program that I know of. I use the longer cable and have it routed through the grommet behind the ecm to the autoprom mounted on the passenger hush panel. It stays in the car all the time, and is robust enough to do so. It comes with everyhting you need except an adapter board for the cable to ecm connection, but it's not that much. Customer service is excellent if you ever have any issues with setup and such. If you want to tune yourself, it's a great way to go. It's as much as some tuners charge for a custom chip. Great Product!

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Rkinney,

Thanks for the info man. I had sent an email to Moates.net, to which they responded promptly, answering the questions just as you did. I looked at the Ostrich II as well, but decided that my tuner would prefer the Autoprom, for which I'll be trading him for the dyno tune.

Again thanks,

Mark.
Old May 5, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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rkinney: I also have an APU1 for my 93 Z. I am having trouble doing both ALDL data logging and logging wideband O2 with an LC-1. Have you had any experience with this?
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