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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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Angry Just killed 3rd pcm


Ok what the this is my 3rd pcm in like 2 months ?

kill 1- pcm security lock is stuck on
kill 2- me moved lobtop cable came out
kill 3- 50% done re flash cable fault error

i have tuner cat
cable from tts and there box
i have a dc to ac unit in the lighter for the labtop is this ok
do i need to do something diff here or what ?

diff parts
new guy behind the labtop
grounds/powers this is to much down time.
Madwolf i have 2 psm's for you to fix email you
HELP
Old Oct 1, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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ive fried a few in my day so i feel your pain

are you using the windows flash utility or the DOS version?
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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i found the best way is to build a desktop programmer. i went through about 5 pcm's before realizing in the car flashing is more trouble than it is worth. i have done my pcm about 100 times and have not had 1 problem. if you need schematics let me know. it is very easy.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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1pcm
2pcm
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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1pcm
2pcm
3pcm

Turbo i think i am in windows is there a difference? and if so how do i get in to dos
thx

Oldsalt yes send me the schematics i will do the bench top harness all there is to it is unplug your pcm right

thx
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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theres a big difference. Ive taken out 2 pcms using the windows version.. never with the old DOS though which is what i use now exclusively. but the problem could also be your computer. i cant use the DOS boot disk that i use with my desktop, with my laptop b/c the laptop always screws up. so even the DOS isnt fail safe. then it can even make a difference which PCM you are using which sounds funny but its the truth. i have an old spare that ive flashed using the windows program about 100 times and never even had a glitch but then ive lost 2 on the first try. one of them i had Madwolf socket for me and ever since then i cannot use the windows program b/c it will fry that pcm..success rate was like 1 in 10 trys or somewhere(not a big deal of course b/c its socketed but still a PITA) around there before i got a hold of a DOS boot disk. now ive flashed that pcm about 5 times with the boot disk and its still alive.
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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the schematic is here
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=14972
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Thx, printed the image

1-13.8v reg power supply (bat voltage is not that)
2-how are you pluging into the back of the pcm (what plug style)
3-to ground rs232 converter ? to signal wire of rs232converter ? what is or where on the plug is it? i have the converter from tts and cable for the obd1 aldl,
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