OK well I just got my first project car! Here are the specs:

11.2@119 I needed a little more tuning but ran out of time.
Its a 1976 camaro type LT; specs are as follows----
1967 327 30' rebuilt 4500 miles ago and broken in SOFT
Keith Black domed racing pistons 12.1 CR
Forged steel small journal crank moroso high volume oil pump
2-bolt block
783 cfm double pumper with 4 corner idle and fast jet change
single plane intake 2500-6500 (thats what I shot for)
Comp Cams xtreme energy 284 cam
385 fast burn aluminum heads
TH350 rebuilt 1,000 miles with B&M manual shift kit
3000 B&M convertor
Full fiberglass fron end including left-right fenders and inner fenders with 4.5 inch Harwood fiber hood
American racing 15x8.5 front 245/50/15 15x9 265/50/15 rear
Air shocks in rear
Hotchkis springs and KYB shocks in front with new bushings and lower ball joints
Heddman headers 1 3/4 primaries to 3 inch collector


As you can tell by my member name, I have a 95 TA so I don't know what half this stuff is. Primarily the "783 cfm double pumper with 4 corner idle and fast jet change
single plane intake 2500-6500 (thats what I shot for)"

Anyways I'm getting this car for a steal, all it needs is body work and I know someone who can do it for cheap. All help is appreciated!

 

thats a really fast car
Dont think it can run on pump fuel if it has 12:1 compression

 

Nice car,to bad it's a 2ndgen.

 

Nice car! I'll move this back to 2nd gen.

 

Have you verified that this car really runs that number? That's way faster than it should run with what's basically a mild 327 with a lot of compression. I know it has a fiberglass front end, but still.

If you haven't, you should make the guy prove it because it sounds 1.5 to 2 seconds too fast for the combo.

Jody

 

If it has that much HP shouldn't it run about an 11.2?

 

How much HP does it have? I read the post twice and I don't see it. Looks like 375-400 tops which is a nice street deal, but not nearly enough to run 11.20's. Not trying to upset you by the way, just want to make sure you get what he claims. Performance figures don't even look close to me.

Jody

 

He said 485.....

 

A little optimistic for that 327. Well, more than a little.

 

If you're getting it for a steal and like the car, then go for it. If you're buying it because it runs 11.20's at 119 and has more in it then you'll likely be very disappointed. If that's the case I'd definitely tell him you want to see it run that number. That cam and heads are pretty mild plus you'd have to spin the heck out of a 327 to make 485 HP. But that's just my opinion from being around the block a few times.

Jody

 

Body work and cheap don't belong together in the same sentence

It always costs at least double what you think it will, unless it happens to be something special. If it is a special case, take that 2x figure and double it.

 

pump fuel of 93+ actually is all she will run on anything lower and the intial timing has to be dropped from 13 to 11. Horsepower like that from a 327 is not unrealistic for a STOCk 327 yes but in 1967 they also had a 350 horse 327 with just a factory offroad cam with the mushroom lifters and no other changes to the car. This 327 came out of a 1967 camaro with that option. I still have that cam at my house. Matt, I don't want to sell you this car if you have any doubts at all. It's not fair to you or me but get more opinions and answers from other sources as well. The small journal 327 makes 90% of it's power higher up the rpm range 5-7000RPM's to be exact. The small journal crank combined with the 8" balancer and hayes lightweight flexplate I put on it will prove it. DO NOT spin her past 6900 or serious valve float will occur.

 

The 350 HP 327 was a neat engine in it's day. I know a guy who has one in his 65 Chevelle, documented down to the last nut and bolt. I remember he was struggling to try to get a 13 out of it; I believe he finally did get a 13.9X after several trips to the track. This was in the last 6 months.

I'm certainly not calling you a liar. Some cars just fly, some engines run much better than they seem like they would. It's just to run that quick at that mph doesn't appear possible with that combo. I hope you prove me wrong!

Good luck with your sale.

Jody

 

I know the 65 chevelles weigh pretty hefty, my dads best friend still has a 67 with the 396 in it and he complains it is too heavy but it does seem far fetched and I never said you were thinking I was lying- you more then likely have a lot more experience then I do and seeing the cars in your sig I would say so. I thought the same way myself that how could that be possible but as we all know when building a motor you have to match components not just brand name and I attempted to do just that with intake, cam, stall, weight reduction, pistons, rods, e.t.c. to have a 3679 pound car go fast it needs a lot more torque then horse and weight reduction. I got her down to 3350 w/o driver.

 

I know you didn't infer that I thought you were lying; since all you can do is read what I'm typing and not hear the tone of my voice, I wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't calling you a liar. Been wrong before and will be wrong again! I've just had several different engine and car combos, taken virtually everything I've built down the track more than a time or two, and never been able to get a combo like that to run that good.

Take care.

Jody