If so what would something like a Procharger kit for my car cost, and where in the Dallas area could I do this?

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69' Camaro Z28
Holly duel feed carb, aluminum intake manifold, and more to come....

"Only the dead know the end of war." Plato

 

With the exception of the Vortech kit for carb'ed cars, the centrifugel type supercharger only works with fuel injection. The Hot Rod mag where they reviewed the Vortech kit for carbs, they said you should get it dyno tuned so you don't have carb problems (eg leaning out and detonation).

If the procharger kit is a roots style then it should be fine assuming your bottem end can take it. You may want a cam more suited to a supercharger but I don't know if it matters

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Andy
aim: Andyman350
1970 Camaro - 355ci, cam, heads, the normal stuff
pics of me and stuff

 

The Vortech kit looks like a good option. It took Hot Rod M's 460hp crate motor + mods to the 675hp range. That's awesome power on the street. I've seen a few cars in magazines with the ATi procharger setup on them, but can't find a whole lot of info on their kits. There are also the roots type blowers that draw from the carb. Holley/Weiand and B&M make single carb street blowers that are designed to fit underneath your hood. It all depends on your power expectations, the condition of your motor, and where you want to put the carb.

 

Actually ProCharger has led the way with the blow through carb systems; Vortech is the newcomer in that area. I much prefer the hat on the carb that ProCharger uses versus the complete carb enclosure that Vortech uses.

I have one on my 69 Camaro. I've done three myself on different cars, all carb'd except for my current 69 which has EFI. The basic kits start at about $1950 or so and go up depending on options and which blower you choose. If you have any questions, let me know.

Jody

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MY CAMARO

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Could you tell me more about the EFI? I've read a little about them but still don't know much. Costs, how it works, etc.

Also, can anyone recomend a place in the Dallas area to put a kit on my car?

Thanks,

Elliot

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69' Camaro Z28
Holly duel feed carb, aluminum intake manifold, and more to come....

"Only the dead know the end of war." Plato

 

Would an EFI like this fit on my car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1854749255

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69' Camaro Z28
Holly duel feed carb, aluminum intake manifold, and more to come....

"Only the dead know the end of war." Plato

 

That's only the throttle body. You'd still need a manifold, fuel rails, injectors, fuel pump and regulator, ECU and wiring harness. You're better off going with a new kit. The Holley 950 Commander is about $2400. complete.

There's no reason why a carb won't work well. I just put a ProCharger on a friend's 69 Camaro with a carb and it runs very well. The trick is to get the carb prepped by someone like Scott at SD Concept Engineering. You send him your carb and all the mods are done for about $325. His number is (401) 732-4047. The blow-through carbs are completely different than a regular carb. Spend the money for the mods and enjoy the blower.

Jody

Jody

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MY CAMARO

 

You'd spend at least around $2,000 to convert to EFI.

Plus honestly, what shape is your car in? Thats a pretty old engine if its the original, and not likely to stand up to blower HP levels. I lost my original 69 engine, no blower. Even if its rather new as a crate motor, some of them will stand up to the pain, some shouldn't be pushed.

 

If not a supercharger on an origional engine, what kind of mods would you suggest? I'm positive I want to put a 4 speed automatic with 4.10 gears, but I don't know what I want to do to the motor.

 

just put a 6-71 or a 8-71 on it and be done with it! Or get a 177ci w/the carb on top.
EFI is expensive, but if you have the money.. Honestly, if you're running low compression already, slap a blower on anyway. If your engine is worn, worst case you blow a hole in a piston because your setup wasnt tuned right. TRW forged dished pistons for a 350 are cheap. You can use a stock crank and rods and you'll be ok.


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"Get Blown Or Get Blown Away!"
1968 RS Camaro
383 w/6-71 10#, Dart heads, 4.88 spool, gutted.

Bartonek Drag Racing

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i have a 69 camaro z28 and i just bought the procharger D1 (not self contained). i preferred the procharger over the vortech because the D1 is a bigger blower that flos more cfm, has a higher max rpm spinning limit, and comes with a 12 rib belt standard(unlike vortechs 6, 8, or 10 ribs). i do plan on buying the vortech carb enclosure though... more for the looks than performance. i know you have get the mods done to the carb to run good with the carb hat, but the enclosure is pretty simple and looks pretty cool. i've heard its more consistent in the enclosure than through the hat, but i haven't experienced it first hand so couldn't tell ya for sure. i will start at about 15# to my 383, and next year, maybe 25# after intercooler.

later,

mike


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Mike,

Sounds like a cool project. A couple of things to mention. I believe the hats are better performing than the enclosures. Every really fast guy I've seen is running the hat. 15 psi of boost is a bunch; you're going to need water injection, race gas, or an intercooler and timing control to run that much. I'm not sure you can run 25 psi through a carb. I have never heard of anybody making it work without EFI. There's a couple of cars in the 8's with carbs that don't run anywhere near that amount of boost. You'll need a SERIOUS engine to handle that.

Good luck. Should be fun.

Jody

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MY CAMARO

 

Mike,

I was about to rag on you hard..I went to your site to check out your car..and saw a engine shot..hey, that looks like a Ford engine! What!??! In a Camaro!?! But then read the caption.. lol. Very nice 1st gen.

 

I dont want to turn you off to the wonders of supercharging, but I think it would be a wise idea to freshen up the engine first and/or check the status its in now. If the bearings/lifters etc are 34 years old, then I think its pretty neccessary.

If you have a father gearhead or someone who could help you pressure/leak test etc that would probably be a good idea, or right off the bat freshen it up for $500-$1000 depending how far you go. I know this probably doesn't sound as exciting as jumping right into the blower, but I ended up giving up on my 69 over a blown engine just driving it to work one day (well, I was doing 130 @ 3:30 in the morning, after a few weeks this took its toll, oops).

Gears are a great bang for the buck, but keep in mind the RPM its going to put you at, not just in racing but daily use if its a daily driver.

If you want a 4 speed auto to stand up to that kind of power, its going to have to be pretty well built, TH400 is a better way to go if you expect to put down serious power at some point, or an M6 is my prefered way to go

This is just my 2 cents, when I had the 69 it was my only car and I loved it, so it was a pretty crappy loss to have blown the thing up (this was about 5 years ago). Just dont want to see someone else blow thier dream car up getting a little excited about going faster, especially if the engine is not built to stand up to the abuse, which I don't know first hand in your case.

Good luck!

 

Do any of ya'll know of a good reliable place here in Dallas I can take my car to and have someone check out the engine?