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'67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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'67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

i'm going to dig into a 327 out of a 67 camaro. I've done many many 350's, but I'm not sure what the best package would be for that motor. it's an original 4bbl 275hp 327 out of a '67 camaro RS. I'm not sure how good the stock heads are in those motors or if they are a bottle neck or not. any input on those helps greatly. (sorry i have no engine codes to supply, the hp rating and year). I'd like to use the stock heads as long as they are not reallly restricting. I'm unsure of what cam and intake to put in/on the motor. I'd like something around the 375hp range. Maybe the performer rpm, torker 2, something else, etc. ?? there are soo many flat tappet cams out there, and i was wondering if anybody knows of any combo that will provide my needs. The motor is mated to a powerglide which i will keep for originality (car is valued over 25k)
in a recap, i'm looking for a good cam and intake that will give me power in the upper 300's (more is always appreciated ). it's going to be a cruising car. the setup has to work with a powerglide. i'll proably get a stall for the powerglide. thanks
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 03:54 AM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

Consider the performer rpm intake/cam setup. The cam is kinda roudy, but sounds good and will makes pretty good power. You'll also want their valvesprings or equivelant.
An 11" 2800 stall with 3.73 - 4.10 will be good for the rearend. The high 1st gear of the powerglide 1.82 or 1.76 will make the converter stall a bit higher than it would with a th350. By the way, you could swap in a th350 without cutting up the car or changing the driveshaft. You would need to replace the gate in the shifter and get a new cable/bracket. The 3 speed would help your combination and let you swap the stock trans back if you decide to sell it later. TCI has pg shift kits and street converters if you leave it in.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

I'd probably keep the powerglide for simplicity I don't mind powerglides, you just have to gear them well to make up for the lack of gears. I like the looks of the performer rpm. the cam i have in my lt1 is a .603/.600 so it'll probably seem kind of mild. i think it will do the trick though. thanks for the input
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

If its the original 275hp 327, it should have the good heads. Depending on your budget and what your plans are (daily driver, weekend toy, track car) there are several directions you can go. The small journal 327s are high reving little monsters. However, you are going to be limited with that powerslide. (I've had two myself over the years.) The November 2005 issue of Hot Rod has a build up of a small journal 327. They went a little radical with a 283 crank (making it a 302), tunnel ram and twin 4bbls, but you'll get an idea of how crazy you can get, and how much it will cost.

You'll also want to check out http://www.camaros.net. Its where all the 1st Camaro gearheads hang out.
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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well, like all of my cars, they are weekend toys that i do drive daily when i feel like it (or when i can afford it at 3 bucks a gallon. ). then again, i'd probably drive a funny car to work if i could. I'd sure lie the lumpy idle of the performer rpm. i would love to have a solid high 12 second car for fun. it's not a concourse car, but i'd like to keep a somewhat original appearance. unless the powerglide will completely kill all performance options, i will probably use it and stall it accordingly. this is going to be a budget build, but i'm not cutting corners. I will be doing all of the work myself to save money and I'm certainly not in any rush to get things done as winter approaches. I'm going to be doing the motor, trans, and rearend. if a th350 would fit easily with no cutting and hacking, i'd consider. I'm not sure if this is a small journal 327 or not. I don't know too much about 327's other than they are great motors, and rev up nicely. I really want to stay with a 327 because it's different. I really appreciate the input. I know i could make a good powred 327, but it's a little harder when you have to compensate for the powerglide. thanks again
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

Why not make it a 365HP like the Vett's of that era. The 365 was the fueler without the Rochester fuel injection. It had an alum high rise intake and a Holley from the factory and the Duntov 30/30 solid flat tappet cam. It had the steel crank,pink rods and dome pistons. I want to say it was 10.5/1 compression. It had the double hump fueler heads with 2.02/160 valves.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

You're going to be seriously limited by the Glide. IMHO, a hi-reving 327 (read no low end torque) and a powerglide are a poor match. I don't see that combination touching the 12's without the help of the bottle. Quite some time ago, I had a 350 with the complete Edelbrock Performer RPM setup (heads, cam, intake, etc) with an M-20 and 3.73's in a 69 Camaro and the best I got it to run was mid-13's at 104mph.

For the money, I'd build a 383.
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Re: '67 327 to buld... need some performance input please

For an easy set up.

do some cleanup porting on the heads and a good valve job.
cam with 230/235 or so at.050. .480 or so lift
keep compression around 10/10.5 to 1
rpm manifold
650/750 holley, vs or dp, your choice
gear and stall accordingly for your intended use

Enjoy

Brad
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