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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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a dvd format question

guys i really need help with this. i picked up a sony dvd burner that came with nero. i've been practicing copying my dvd's on dvd rw's. they work just fine in my home dvd player as well as my in dash kenwood player.

here is the problem, i'm trying to burn music videos to my dvd rw just as i would copying my movies. when i do so the video will play but i can not fwd or rwd with it. i can play the disc in my home dvd player with no problem but not in the car.

obviously there is a format problem that the head unit is not picking up but i can't figure out what it is. the downloaded media is mpeg1 or vcd. is there no way i can get these to play in my player? i copy the regular dvd's in this format and it works fine.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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You need to read up on how to author a disk.

Making backup copies of dvd content and creating your own from mpg's (these videos are in mpg format??) is not the same thing.

Some rendition of nero I believe does offer the capability to recode into dvd compliant material.

EDIT: DVD compliant disks are strickly mpeg2 - not only that, but they are of certain resolution (720x480 for ntsc, 720x576 for pal systems), and certain frame rate (29.976 & 25 ntsc/pal respectively).
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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well if you have any insite i would greatly appreciate it. this isn't a case of being to lazy it's not knowing enough on how to search through the information. the downloaded videos are mpg 1 format which in translation would be a vcd style codec from what i can understand. please stop and correct me if i'm wrong.

but when i try to burn to the dvd in this form it doesn't work on my car dvd player unlike my home dvd player where it will play just fine. what i'm trying to do is to understand what file exactly i need to convert the mpg format too in order to have my car dvd player properly read it.

from what i can understand your saying that i need to convert the mpeg 1 to a mpeg2 in order to have it play properly in my car player? if this is the case do you have a suggestion as to what program i can download or purchase that will do this? i've been trying this for over 2 weeks with little luck and it's getting frustrating.

either way thank you in advance for taking the time to read through my thread to shed some light on the subject as i thought i had a grasp on this and i can't seem to figure it out.


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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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well it turns out wmv and mpeg1 are completely different so that does help me a bit.

i had to use a program called divxtodvd to convert and burn since the file is a demo and won't allow saving of the conversion. tried tmpegenc but it takes twice as long and then you still need to run it through a burner.

took 3 hours to use divixtodvd to encode and burn 10 wmv music videos and convert them so my car dvd player would use them. guess i can't complain since it works now but that's an extreme amount of time. there must be something out there better. couldn't even add a working menu.

on another downside i used nero again with the converted files as i had to convert the wmv to mpeg2. nero tries to convert the files on it's own, you have to designate it to convert them to a video ts type file and it still doesn't work. so nero is good for copying movies since it came with the burner but that's it.

thanks for the suggestions everyone, now i just need to cut my conversion and burning process down some.

Old Sep 27, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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You need a program that will burn a video cd, aka VCD. Even then it might not play in your car.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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For something like that, I would use Adobe Encore, or any other DVD authoring program.
Encore is pretty expensive though and the best way to get it is with the Adobe Video Collection for about $900, which is a very good bargain since each program sells individually for around $600 and you get 4 programs, Encore, Premiere Pro, Audition, After Effects.
Our Matrox RTX.100 editing cards came with those programs and that is what we use for video/audio editing.

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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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There is a program called "NeroVision Express" Basically it allows you to author your own DVD's. I do this all the time for movies I record off of my cable (I have a TV tuner card so it is nice). The only thing you will need if you are using a standard single layer DVD is about 80gigs of free space for the encoding process. If you want extremely high quality video and sound you would need to have a dual layer 9gig drive.. then you can really encode some nice disc's.

It actually encodes it to work with any and all DVD players that support a writable disc... It supports custom menus and all.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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i appreciate the support guys. $900 to burn a few downloaded music videos won't fly for something as cheap as i'm trying to do, but that's good to know. i have no problem buying a program, that isn't the case but the fact i had to pay for nero and it doesn't do what i need i want to make sure i get the right program.

i need a program that can take basic wmv downloaded videos and convert/burn them to mpeg2 dvd readable format. if anyone knows of a program that will do this relatively easily as well as allow for chapter/track designation and a menu that would be great!

i have nerovision express with my nero. as i said i can copy dvd's that i have and burn them no problem with this. it will not encode or translate wmv files no matter what i do. the files will play in the player but not properly as you can't pause, rwd, fwd or even skip tracks and the menus don't work either because apparently nero isn't encoding it in mpg2 format?

angelis83lt if you know how to get the nerovision express to take a downloaded file like a wmv file and translate it so that it will burn in a mpeg 2 form so that any dvd player that can read writeable discs can do so please let me know. i've tried everything with nero and it won't work for me.

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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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yea.. there is a way to actually re encode the file format. it is part of the nerovision express.. I have done it several times... The Program is actually called Nero Recode.... It will take just about any video file and re encode it to the proper type of file format, and then you can use nerovision express to burn the DVD with menus and such
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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yes i did that, it re encodes supposedly to a video ts type file format correct? but it doesn't work because the menus that it burns aren't encoded in that format and the chapter markers aren't either so it stops the normal playing of how it works.

at least for me...

when you are recording or saving your tv files what are they being saved as? are they wmv files?
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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When I record the video off the tv it record as DVD Mpeg-2 format.. now... I have taken other files from downloaded things (mostly car videos) and re encoded them into mpeg format. Something must not be working for you.. because i have encoded more file types than I can even remember and burned them onto DVD discs that i have gotten to work in everything... The biggest thing is I jsut let it re encode into a file.. then when i record onto the DVD Disc... The menus and everything work very well on everything.. although i am not positive on the HU stuff..... But then.. when it reords it records it as Standard DVD File type..
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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Nero doesn't include the MPEG2 encoder in it's software. You have to buy it from them, or find it somewhere.
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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ahh... that would explain alot thank you.

angelis i can do all that your saying and make it work in anything that can read the basic file. however the nero program doesn't take these misc. files and truly convert them and if it can for a head unit to read it please someone let me know. the only reason copied dvd's from nero work in head units is that they are already coded, you merely break down the code, shrink the file to convert and reburn. this doesn't work with wmv files or mpeg1 standards.

i really appreciate the suggestions and comments though everyone, please keep them coming as i really want to figure it out. it's much nicer to see a video with the music then just the mp3.

Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Depends on the one you get. I have Nero 6 Ultra Edition... Probably why i can do it without any problems... http://ww2.nero.com/enu/Nero_6_Reloaded.html.
It comes basically with all of thier software. they have one other that is not included, because it is newer than nero 6 so it was not included in the overall bundle.. But for $79 - 100$ it is not a bad bit of software.


They have a Nero 7 now.. Have not actually tried it.. but i am sure i will upgrade... always nice to stay on the latest program with them.. The one thing you will find is if the DVD has Copy protection (or a cd for that matter) You will not be able to copy it. There are ways to do it yet.. but not with Nero..
Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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yes that's what i have and it isn't working for what i want to do.

i can copy a dvd no problem and make it work in anything, i can even cut it up and it still works fine. i can convert .wmv to mpeg2 files and burn it with nero to work on my onkyo home player but i can not for the life of me make them play perfectly in a playstation 2 or my cars head unit. they play but i have to forward through a track to get to the next and i can not get menus to work on either of these two platforms.




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