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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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2 OHM or 4 OHM???

Ok heres my question!

I have 2 Bazooka EL 1500 amps rated @ 385 x 1 @ 4 ohms or 500 x 1 @ 2 ohms with a maximum output of 700 watts. And 2 Kicker comp vr DVC 12's rated @ 400 watts RMS and 800 watts MAX. At the moment they are hooked up each to there own amp at 4 ohms, should I run them at 2 ohms for more power or will I blow the speakers due to the 500 watts RMS @ 2 ohms.

They sound pretty good now but was wondering if they had more or is it a risk I shouldnt take??

All responses appreciated, considering I obviously have no clue!

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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If you have each woofer hooked to their own amp at 4 ohms now.....how do you plan to re-wire them for a 2 ohm load?
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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DVC? right? how many ohms per coil?
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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They are dual 4 ohms and as for wiring I was looking on another site at some diagrams and thought it could be done??? Again I am new to car audio?

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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they should..should be 2 or (even) 3 times as loud as you have them right now, since they only can be wired to 8 or 2 homs. and you said you dont have them at 2 ohms.

BTW, Check how are they wired right now and let us know. maybe you already have them at 2 ohms. however, they should handle 500 rms with ease.
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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They are dual 4 ohms and as for wiring I was looking on another site at some diagrams and thought it could be done???
How are you running each woofer at 4ohms now with a dual 4ohm sub? Explain to us EXACTLY how you have it wired. A short jumper from one coil's + to the other coil's - and then just hooking up to the amp positive to positive and negative to negative? That would be a series connection, meaning you are now running a 8 ohms. Not 4. Anyway..... yes, you can wire the subs you have now to a 2 ohm load. Just connect all the positives and then connect all the negatives. That is a parallel connection. This will present each amp with a 2 ohm load. As long as you set your gains correctly, you shouldn't have any problems with the "extra" 100WRMS.

Damn, 95 3.8 beat me to it. Guess I type too slow...:
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Damn you guys are quick! Ok so they are just hooked up WRONG! Only one of the coils is actually hooked up? The positive from the amp going to one of the positives on the speaker and the same for the negative????

So by that diagram I should hook the positive from the amp to both positives on the speakers? And that would be a 2 ohm load??? I guess!

Hey thanks for the speedy help too!

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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Damn you guys are quick! Ok so they are just hooked up WRONG! Only one of the coils is actually hooked up? The positive from the amp going to one of the positives on the speaker and the same for the negative????
DO NOT use only one voice coil!!!!
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So by that diagram I should hook the positive from the amp to both positives on the speakers?
Yes, and the same for negatives. Oh man. Your subs are gonna pound now! Remember not to crank the gains. Which headunit are you running? How much voltage is on the RCAs? That is going to dictate how far you can turn the gain up.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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Its a clarion head unit but I cant remember which one it is? And as far as voltage on the RCA's....I have no clue?LOL! Remember Im lost with this sh*t! How do I find that out? There is only one RCA ran back to the first amp and the it has an output to connect the amps together.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Just looked at the head unit, its a
Clarion BD216. Not sure if that means anything?

Heres a link to some info :

http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/clarbdcdrec.html
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by superkia8
Its a clarion head unit but I cant remember which one it is? And as far as voltage on the RCA's....I have no clue?LOL! Remember Im lost with this sh*t! How do I find that out? There is only one RCA ran back to the first amp and the it has an output to connect the amps together.
You can find that in the owners manual if you still have it, or find out the exact model number and look it up in the clarion website. Being that it is an aftermarket unit, I think it's safe to assume you are running ATLEAST 2V. If your gain **** is not marked with voltage ranges, check the owners manual or website. If still nothing, I wouldn't push it much passed the 2/3 mark. Even that's a little high. And remember that's assuming a 2V RCA voltage! If you are running a higher voltage, you should not turn it up even that much.
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Originally posted by superkia8
Just looked at the head unit, its a
Clarion BD216. Not sure if that means anything?
We got a model number. Sweet. Now we can talk. Here's a link to the owners manual. Check out the last page. Line output: 1.8V God damn I'm good! And here's a link for the amp's manual. Page 17. Hi Input= 1 to 10V. Meaning the "min" setting is 10V and the "max" setting is 1V. So you should be able to turn it up to the 3/4 mark without any problems. But don't hold me to it..... I don't want a summons showing up at my door because you damaged your gear.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Hey firebirdude, do you have the bose system in your car or did you take it out? Heres where Im at so far. I ran the wires so that both positives on the speaker are together and the same with the negative but cant really tell a difference. Now I havent done any adjusting yet, right now the gain is down real low. The problem Im having now is the bose speaker starts to distort when I turn the volume up, I tried to just unhook the clip of wires rnning to it but when I did for some reason the subs shut off to?????

This I dont understand because the subs are running from the RCA from the headunit and shouldnt be affected by it??? Any ideas?

Thanks once again,
Rich
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Hey firebirdude, do you have the bose system in your car or did you take it out?
Didn't have the Bose system. Didn't have any upgraded system. Just the plain ol' four speaker delcos. Ripped everything out a replaced with aftermarket. Can't see why your re-wiring would cause your Bose speaker to distort. And you unplugged the speaker and the amp shut off? Odd. I see no reason for this.....
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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what kinda Bose system did you had before? after taking the old Bose HU, did you run new wire, or just used an adapter?



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