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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Unhappy World's first diesel hybrid! Of course, U.S. won't get it.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=19436

Peugeot 3008 Hybird 4 System (Source: Autoblog Green)Diesel hybrid to get almost 70 mpg on the European cycle


Interest in hybrid vehicles continues to rise around the world. In Japan, Toyota has sold over one million hybrid vehicles since the introduction of the first generation Prius. So far, the consumer hybrids we have seen are have been based on gasoline engines to achieve upwards of 50 mpg (Toyota's third generation Prius). However, some diesel engines already claim the similar fuel economy to many gasoline hybrids.

The fact that a diesel engine can already deliver the fuel economy of some hybrids raised the question of why we don’t see diesel hybrids combining the best of both fuel economy worlds. Peugeot has done just that with the unveiling of its new 3008 Hybrid4 Crossover with Hybrid4 technology. The vehicle is claimed to be the world's first diesel full hybrid production car.

The car uses a 2.0L 163 bhp HDi diesel engine along with a 37 bhp electric motor. The diesel engine and the electric motor are able to deliver a combined driving cycle fuel consumption of 74.4mpg and CO2 emissions in the 99g/km range ([b]Autoblog Green points out that the 3008 is rated at 61.9 miles per gallon using U.S. EPA ratings[b]). The new 3008 Hybrid4 Crossover also offers four-wheel drive and can be used in several modes including the four-wheel drive mode, auto mode, and sport modes.

The vehicle also uses an electronically-controlled 6-speed manual gearbox. The 3008 Hybrid4 Crossover has an 8-kilowatt high-voltage integrated starter-generator to perform the engine start stop capability and to charge the nickel-metal hydride battery.

During acceleration, the vehicle uses both the diesel engine and the electric motor. The maximum torque available is 368 lb-ft and that is split in four-wheel drive mode with 221 lb-ft going to the front wheels and 147 lb-ft going to the rear wheels. Peugeot claims that the diesel engine alone used in the hybrid is 30 percent more fuel efficient than a gasoline engine.


The 3008 Hybrid4 Crossover will land in the spring of 2011 in Europe at an unspecified price.


Too bad we can't have that here. 70 mpg and 368 ft/lbs of torque?

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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Excessive regulation keeps us from enjoying technology as it's delivered else ware. Very disappointing.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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I would burn just over 3 gallons os fuel per week with that thing. Now its closer to 13.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Why only 70mpg? The VW Polo in Germany already does that without a battery...
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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The article says 61.9mpg when converted to US. I honestly thought a diesel would be higher. Depending on initial cost and considering diesel is higher... you may STILL be better off with a gas hybrid.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek M
Excessive regulation keeps us from enjoying technology as it's delivered else ware. Very disappointing.
Particulate air quality standards are probably the primary driver since it would create additional cost and complexity in order to meet compliance.

They could kill the air quality reqs, but to be honest in high population areas that would probably be a bad thing, especially when those problems are compunded by geography (California comes to mind since the mountains there act as a wall preventing them from sharing the love - so the speak. even worse, California gets dumped on my crap flowing out of asia,
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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Particulate air quality standards are probably the primary driver since it would create additional cost and complexity in order to meet compliance.
Particulate and NOx. The NOx regs would probably require urea injection, though they could probably make bin5 without that. The problem with bin5 is that the fleet average requirement is less than that, so they have to sell low bin cars to offset the bin5 cars, and while something like bin1 or bin2 costs more to build, the market will not pay for it. So there is an imputed cost to every diesel car/LDT in the amount of hardware they have to install into a gasoline car to bring the average fleet emissions down.

For California, the there is a different number of categories with different names, but the game is the same, only harder to win (for diesels).

I would say the other thing keeping this car from the U.S. is a distribution channel for Peugeots.
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by teal98

I would say the other thing keeping this car from the U.S. is a distribution channel for Peugeots.
a good point indeed
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