First post....welcome!

Obviously, we all know that the V6 will be no Z/28. But, it'll have decent power, decent torque, hopefully...and from the sound of it...a world class chassis, and also hopefully, beautiful lines. Oh...and it'll be under pressure to compete with Mustang's base price.

Sounds like a sweet car for a sweet price.

Far from a softly suspended grocery getter, I believe the base car will have a relatively firm, yet very compliant suspension tune. The base V6 motor will have the power of an L98....and more torque than an L69 .....match that up to a six speed manual......and you've got the makings for one fun car...at an affordable price.

 

About 245HP/280TQ?

 

I was referring to the HV 3.9 V6....which we're thinking will be the base motor.

GM rates it at 240-245 hp and 245 ft/lbs torque.

The B2L/L98 in F-cars was rated from 225-240 hp.

The L-69 HO had 240 ft/lbs of torque.

Power of an L-98, torque of an L-69.

 

L98's are 225HP-245HP. You were right about the L69 though.

 

240 is what they were rated at, when you could buy them in Camaros. I think 245 is an urban legend that I first saw in print in the mid to late '90s.

At any rate...the point I was trying to make is...the base V6 5th gen, should be as good as one of the better 3rd gen V8's.

 

I think that would be one fun car. Especially if they offered a factory added supercharger rolled into the price and warranty of the car right off the dealer lot. Maybe add in a similar package to the current v6's Y87 package and that car would be a steal at 22-23k.

 

It's 245HP/345TQ in 90-92 for Camaro 350 TPI's, IIRC the lousy intake on Firebirds got them 240HP/340TQ. I agree that the base V6 should have HP somewhere near there, the TQ won't happen obviously, but many V6's already come with this kind of HP, so, yeah.

 

Thanks for the welcome, but i'm an oldie (RiceEating5.0). Just a new screen name since i no longer own the stang.

I just don't think GM will go through the trouble of giving a sub-20k car a world class chassis, nurburgring tuned performance suspension, the whole works, etc... I just don't see them going all out like that on the v6 cars...i just dont. Especially considering the car is a cheap base model, and not even anywhere near being the "hot" performance model in the lineup (z28/SS). I don't know. I picture base v6 and i see a ho-hum car (no offense to v6 owners). People that generally buy them, just aren't crazy about performance. Kind of like the v6 mustangs, they just want the image, but they don't care for the higher insurance cost, velcro-like grip in turns, or neck snapping acceleration. I just see them as bread and butter cars, and the people that buy them as everyday people who aren't really into high performance. GM is probably anticipating this, and building the v6 geared towards this crowd while giving those wanting high performance, the z28 and SS models.

@245hp, and the 3400lb weight you mention, it'll be lucky to go less than mid 14's (good race for accord v6 6spd). As for the suspension, it might offer the z28/SS suspension/wheels as an option (RS model??), but i doubt it'll come standard so it'll be compromised.

Who knows. I certainly wouldn't mind it (wouldn't buy it either), but it just may offer a lot of bang for your buck like you said. It may also be marginally better than the 4th gens v6 cars too so i guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

The beauty of a factory engineered and dealer installed SC is, you can have it installed when you buy the car and roll it into your financing and keep your warranty. Or...the bucks down enthusiast can buy a base car....and in a year or two get the SC installed at the dealer, and not void his warranty.

BTW, I can't imagine a SC 3.9 producing less than 285-300 hp. And beyond that...there is that tunability factor with a supercharged motor.

 

5.0, you SOB....you fooled me!

Well, the building blocks will certainly be there. Even... for example... if only performance packages like Z/28 are tuned at Nurburgring....what is learned there will trickle down to the base car. Remember, the $20K-something Ion Redline had lots of developement work done there as well.....and it shows.

And I can also see it being a substatially better performer than a V6 4th gen. 20% more power for one. A much better chassis for another. And a smaller package...which makes it more fun to drive...for yet another.

 

Welcome to the family Gold_Rush! Do ya have any pics of your new car? I've always liked that gold color

 

Thanks guys. Pictures haven't turned out that great or a sgood as i would have liked, but here are some. Color looks much better in person. Don't mind the host.

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Another lost soul saved from The Darkside.

I like gold Camaros.

 

Hehe. I'm in love with this thing so far. As far as the darkside, I intend to have another rustang in the garage soon enough. Still waiting for the 03 Cobra's to come down to about 15g's. Always wanted to own both pony cars side by side.

The 67 is gold right? Or is the gold 1st gen i remember another one you used to own? it is good color.

 

I think the v6 will just be a trickle down of what they developed for the v8. Same basic suspension as the high peformence V8, just a little softer, maybe 16" tire with more sidewall for a nicer/quiter ride, etc. The base V6 would be great if it had 240 HP, but I doubt you'll see a number that high. They'll just make it competitive with the mustang, maybe give it 10 more than the stang V6. However, they should make the stiffer suspesion and bigger tires a stand alone option on the base V6.

I also think that the Camaro will need several different engine options, just like the 3rd gen cars. Maybe the base V6, then a small V8 with 300 hp, running a 14 flat quarter. Then you could step up to a bigger V8 with something around 350 hp running low 13's. Then the asphalt raping SS would have in excess of 400 HP and run mid to low 12's