View Poll Results: What do you think about the on going Z28 vs. SS Top Model threads and polls?
Cant get enough of them, I love reading and arguing about the same crap over and over.
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23.53%
Please shoot me, I cant read another one, this site is starting to bore me….
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76.47%
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Who is sick of the Z28 vs. SS threads?
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From: Houston
Who is sick of the Z28 vs. SS threads?
This topic was interesting two years ago when I first got sucked into it. I'm kind of sick of reading this thread over an over again. WE have covered the top model discussion enough. Who is with me?
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From: At car shows and cruise nights!
To be honest with you, it is tiring after a while. But, they should just fix it and give us no reason to argue about it in the next Gen. 
Z28
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Last edited by IZ28; Aug 5, 2003 at 11:36 PM.
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From: Chicagoland IL
Originally posted by guionM
You're right!!
It's really time for another Mustang vs Camaro debate!!
You're right!!
It's really time for another Mustang vs Camaro debate!!
Or maybe a "GTO hoodscoop" thread.
Or how about a "Silverado SS is slower than Lightning" thread.
As far as I'm concerned...Z/28 and SS threads are the best game in town.
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From: Sterling Heights, MI
Maybe if somebody had anything new to bring to the table I'd be interested again. Just a different perspective would be nice. Red hasn't commented much on the whole debate other than he personally likes the SS badge, take it for what it's worth....
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From: Ohio
The only reason I step in is to try to dispell the non-truths that get fabricated...
And, yes, I get tired of it... especially after most of the valid points get ignorned, and names of cars change and all this stuff...
And, yes, I get tired of it... especially after most of the valid points get ignorned, and names of cars change and all this stuff...
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Joined: Dec 1969
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From: GTA, ON, Canada
Originally posted by Morgan SS
Why don't they just keep it the way it has always been. Z28 and then the next step up is the SS?:D
Why don't they just keep it the way it has always been. Z28 and then the next step up is the SS?:D
I enjoy the topic, because it helps clarify what a Camaro is or should be (e.g., a '96-'02 SS is a Z28 with a package, but in earlier years the Z28 was a raw track stormer while the SS was the drag car).
I suspect GM dropped the SS after '72 because they felt it would be wrong to apply the SS name to the detuned engines of that era, while the Z28 was the flagship of handling (even it went on a short hiatus a few years later). I think SLP and GM recognized that when Camaro engines regained real power, the time was right to reintroduce the SS--but since SLP could only modify the existing V-8 Camaro (Z28 only), the meaning of SS vs. Z28 became blurred, and the whole issue became somewhat confusing: as a result their respective identities were anything but clear.
Last edited by SteveL from Toronto; Aug 6, 2003 at 03:08 PM.
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From: The Golden State
Originally posted by SteveL from Toronto
This was true only for 1996-2002 Camaros.
I enjoy the topic, because it helps clarify what a Camaro is or should be (e.g., a '96-'02 SS is a Z28 with a package, but in earlier years the Z28 was a raw stormer while the SS was the drag car).
I suspect GM dropped the SS after '72 because they felt it would be wrong to apply the SS name to the detuned engines of that era, while the Z28 was the flagship of handling (even it went on a short hiatus a few years later). I think SLP and GM recognized that when Camaro engines regained real power, the time was right to reintroduce the SS--but since SLP could only modify the existing V-8 Camaro (Z28 only), the meaning of SS vs. Z28 became blurred, and the whole issue became somewhat confusing: as a result their respective identities were anything but clear.
This was true only for 1996-2002 Camaros.
I enjoy the topic, because it helps clarify what a Camaro is or should be (e.g., a '96-'02 SS is a Z28 with a package, but in earlier years the Z28 was a raw stormer while the SS was the drag car).
I suspect GM dropped the SS after '72 because they felt it would be wrong to apply the SS name to the detuned engines of that era, while the Z28 was the flagship of handling (even it went on a short hiatus a few years later). I think SLP and GM recognized that when Camaro engines regained real power, the time was right to reintroduce the SS--but since SLP could only modify the existing V-8 Camaro (Z28 only), the meaning of SS vs. Z28 became blurred, and the whole issue became somewhat confusing: as a result their respective identities were anything but clear.
One thing that's often forgotten here (and elsewhere) was that performance cars simply weren't selling in the early 1970s. The energy crisis didn't happen till 1973's embargo and was generally over by the end of 1974, restrictive emissions didn't kick in till 1974, and most cars started regaining horespower by 1977.
If performance still sold, one would be crazy to think the auto industry wouldn't have responded to it (Trans Am, Corvette, and to a lesser degree, the Plymouth Road Runner are perfect examples of performance weathering the early & mid 70s).
The public simply turned away from high performance.
Last edited by guionM; Aug 6, 2003 at 03:18 PM.