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What impact did PHR's 5th Gen proposal have on Camaro's future?

Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Don't worry about the missing pic,it was a first draft and I'm sure Crispey will post version 2.0 soon. SOP on the stuff we've worked on together.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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How does everyone feel if they just call it Chevrolet Z28?
I would be [just] OK with that ONLY if it was an all out performance car, that means: no V6/base models.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Did anyone else notice this?

In evok's explanation the emphasis on the 1968 Camaro, and the 1998 Camaro... while the General theme of the vehicle should be the 1968?

Why not say 1967 Camaro or 2002 Camaro which are virtually the same cars from a style standpoint? Afterall 1967 was the first year of production and 2002 was the last year of production.

Is there more to this suggestion? Perhaps the number eight comes into play. As in the vehicle-we-dare-not-to-name will be deploying in MY 2008?

Riddle me this... if it comes out in 2007 as a 2008 model, would it still be ok to say 40th Anniversary?
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Yeah, link no work... dang! I knew I should have saved that last night! Anybody else get it?
I saved it. If anyone wants a copy, email me.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Here it is:

Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by TA76
Here it is:

not really feeling that myself...
i do though, think retro might be the way to go now
after seeing gone in 60 seconds last night, i was thinking, how sweet would it be to have another muscle car era with cars that look like genuine muscle cars, perform even better than their 30+ year old counterparts, and get about 20 mpg, in the city!
i was totally on the anti-retro wagon but since last night...i don't know
i think either way, the new camaro will surprise everybody

edit, looking again at the pic, it doesnt look half bad save the chrome bar and the fender flares (aren't those on the cobalt or the malibu or something, they sort of flare past the wheel well and on the rest ofthe body?)

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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hey, can someone photoshop the link ta76 posted without the fender flares going down the body, and sort of 'chop' them off at the wheel wells?
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by unvc92camarors
hey, can someone photoshop the link ta76 posted without the fender flares going down the body, and sort of 'chop' them off at the wheel wells?
Why do that?

If you read evok's original post on cheersandgears.com he said:
Here is what I am proposing to be done and if one chooses to try it you can use any photos of the three vehicles that you can find. I just put those three links up as examples.

"""""Some of you might be wondering about why I am proposing this. hmmm You might be surprised what you come up with! """"""

1) Roof of the 1968
2) Front fenders of the 1998 where the fender line sweeps into the mirror,
3) Side of the 1999 Nomad.
4) Merge all three together to form the front end.I now see a front end that is closer to the 67 but updated in an 05 Mustang sort of way as is the rest of the car
5) Trunk of the 1968
6) General theme of the vehicle should be the 1968.
7) Windshield raked like the 1998 but the vehicle is more upright and coupe like as in the 1968.
8) More like the Essence of the 68 with a thinner c-pillar.
9) The 99 Nomad like wheel flares are a must.
This isn't about what "we" want to see. It's about what evok has seen in his crystal ball.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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and notice the red letters on certain parts of the post..hmmm..
now what I want to know is the sheetmetal totally new on what sigmalite? so this sheetmetal might be something totally diffrent to what we have thought..

hows this..the stance of the 3rd gen..the bold muscular look BUT with the 68 stylin fitted in,..makes you wonder..
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28
Why do that?

If you read evok's original post on cheersandgears.com he said:


This isn't about what "we" want to see. It's about what evok has seen in his crystal ball.
thanks for pointing that out jg
but i must say to the flares
nowhere in camaro history have we had flares like that and i personally don't want it to start now
but then again, that is what i "want" to see, not what evok said
i fear evok might be right:blah:
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by unvc92camarors
thanks for pointing that out jg
but i must say to the flares
nowhere in camaro history have we had flares like that and i personally don't want it to start now...
Actually they're a more defined version of the same wheel skirts that came on all Camaros produced in 1969.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Let me say this......

You COULD do a front end that has the 'look' of the first gen...but it doesn't have to be a 'plow' in the front.

Think about it....the grille on the first gens were upright......at 90 degrees to the road surface. That's not aerodynamic.

now.....think about taking that 'look' and raking it..........






as to styling....still changes being made......but oh, if you could only see what's hanging on the walls as the designers continue their work!

(think in terms of old photographs over the past 35 years......true inspiration)


one final comment. For those of you who really know me, (I mean REALLY know me......the kinda 'let's talk about the car at 2 am over a cup of coffee......) you'll know that I have very high standards as to what the next car has to be. And I'm happy.

'nuff said.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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Interesting RP. I have to say that many times I've looked at the front of a 1st Gen and said, you know, I bet the front of that car would look cool if it were "raked."

But, to be completely honest, I really don't wanna see a retro 68 even if that's my favorite year for 1st Gens. I'd like to see maybe a 68 mixed with an IROC-Z, but not an all retro car like this: http://www.wyattcon.net/images/F5Camaro.jpg even though I like most of it. Put some Third Gen lines in the 5th and just stay true to the Camaro in every aspect possible and hopefully it'll be good.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by TA76
Here it is:



That is freakin awesome. Definitely a worthy competitor to the new stang.


The car had to go back to its first gen roots, ie. more upright stance and NOT vette-lite.

This will work.
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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BTW, any body intergration like 4th Gens is not cool. As in the mirrors and anything else. Crisp and clean designs are always better. And no all-out retro designs are even better. (same goes for chrome bars in grills) Can't say that enough.

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