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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by robvas
SRT4

Two years ago you could get a LS1 Z28 for less than $18,000
Man, there must be a big diffrence in car prices in this country. 2 years ago the cheapest z28 I could find stickered for 26k and had was a hardtop! The cheapest transam I could find was 32k. No one even had a formula to test drive. I am still kicking my self for not buying that trans am......
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by robvas
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Two years ago you could get a LS1 Z28 for less than $18,000
Z28 base price was about $23,000 before rebates, incentives, & deals. These so-called base cars were by no means stripped. They had power windows mirrors & seats, fog lights, AC, a great standard stereo (with CD player I believe), and a no cost optional 6 speed.

You had to order them yourself because dealers (when they actually stocked Camaros) tended to order $30K SSs or loaded upper $20K Z28s for their lots. They didn't sell many of them, so the more loaded Camaros were, the more money they made on each one they sold.

Robvas is absolutely right. 2 years ago, if you went down & ordered your own base model Z28 Camaro with deposit in hand, you could have gotten a new LS1 Z28 for well below $20,000, if not $18K.

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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good thing i wasn't shopping for a car then. i assumed that the v6's were in the low 20k's. i guess mostly cause the SS's were in the 30k's
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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I really wish that dodge would releas that razor concept that they said can be doen for 14,500. A tiny stylish 250hp sports car like that even at 18k would be incredible!
Id be over that like a fat kid on a chocolate bar. That car was awesome.
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Once you get into the low 20's there is alot of options to choose from buts its far more difficult if you had to stay below $17,999 since by the time you add tax and license (10%) your out the door price is about $20,000 before financing charges.

I know that Saturn is not offering incentives or rebates on the Redline and Im sure Chevy will not offer rebates on the new Cobalt and Ford will certainly not offer rebates on the 05 Mustang (maybe on cars loaded with expensive options to give them some wiggle room to deal).

I remember back in 1994 when the Camaro Z28 won Motor Trends "best bang for the buck" issue because of its $17,999 base price.

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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gui,

I looked on autotrader.com and I didnt see one new SRT-4 even close to $18,000 out here in Southern Califronia (see below).

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22825
Color: Black
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S94D617102

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22485
Color: Flame Red
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S34D621972

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22485
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S54D621973

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22085
Mileage: 8
Color: Flame Red
Distance: 31 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S04D595878

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22030
Color: Black
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S64D549955

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21690
Color: Black
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S94D621507

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21690
Color: Bright Silver
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S54D617910

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21335
Color: Bright Silver
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S64D596547
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Re: What do you think is the best performing new car for under $18,000?

Originally posted by johnsocal
upcoming Cobalt SS,
CobaltSS.net
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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I think the 2.4 Cobalt SS will most likely be around $18,000-$19,000 while the 2.0 Cobalt SS Supercharged will be price about the same as the Ion Redline at $22,000+/

There are alot of great performing FWD (or AWD) cars under $25,000 with the Mustang and the Miata currently owning the under $25,000 RWD performance since the RX8 and 350Z are closer to $30,000 for a real-world equipped models.
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by guionM
Z28 base price was about $23,000 before rebates, incentives, & deals. These so-called base cars were by no means stripped. They had power windows mirrors & seats, fog lights, AC, a great standard stereo (with CD player I believe), and a no cost optional 6 speed.

You had to order them yourself because dealers (when they actually stocked Camaros) tended to order $30K SSs or loaded upper $20K Z28s for their lots. They didn't sell many of them, so the more loaded Camaros were, the more money they made on each one they sold.

Robvas is absolutely right. 2 years ago, if you went down & ordered your own base model Z28 Camaro with deposit in hand, you could have gotten a new LS1 Z28 for well below $20,000, if not $18K.
Wow, when you think of it that way, late model Camaros are actually holding their value relatively well compared to other GM vehicles.
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by johnsocal
gui,

I looked on autotrader.com and I didnt see one new SRT-4 even close to $18,000 out here in Southern Califronia (see below).

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22825
Color: Black
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S94D617102

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22485
Color: Flame Red
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S34D621972

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22485
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S54D621973

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22085
Mileage: 8
Color: Flame Red
Distance: 31 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S04D595878

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $22030
Color: Black
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S64D549955

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21690
Color: Black
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S94D621507

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21690
Color: Bright Silver
Distance: 5 Miles
VIN: 1B3ES66S54D617910

2004 Dodge SRT-4
MSRP: $21335
Color: Bright Silver
Distance: 50 Miles
VIN: 1B3AS66S64D596547
I saved the page, and now when I click on my link, it has only the AutoTrader site, not the page those cars were on. Of course, NOW those cars can't be brought up.

I remember that a couple was in Phoenix Arizona area, and I believe one was in either Stockton or Sacremento, but you are right. None were in Southern California... Camaros even had a couple thousand markup till the very end.
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Wow, when you think of it that way, late model Camaros are actually holding their value relatively well compared to other GM vehicles.
The V8 cars always seemed to do pretty well with holding value.
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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SE-R Spec V?? Kid around here has one bone stock, got it for like $16k and has been pulling 15.2's in it. Handles pretty well with some decent options as well. I like it alot better than the Mazda 3's ive ridden in and the interior doesn't seem as cheap as a SRT-4. (id take and SRT over a Spec V but SRT's are 20k+)
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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No way are you going to buy a NEW 04 SRT4 for under 20k, its not going to happen Chrysler doesnt budge with the pricing on those things...to answer the question though for 18k it would be a new Mazda 3 or Scion TC, but thats hypathetical...18k im sure i could swing 2k more and get the srt4....
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Spec Vs do very well in the autox, if by performing we're talking more than just straight line. They're helped out tremendously by the heliacle (sp?) LSD upfront which basically puts them in a modified class straight from the factory (STX).
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