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View Poll Results: Which name would you want on your Commadore?
Commadore
12
20.69%
Chevelle
20
34.48%
Nova
6
10.34%
Monte Carlo
3
5.17%
Lumina (as in Middle east)
17
29.31%
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What Chevy name would you put on Commadore?

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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we have a bit of a disagreement then. You can stretch any plastic body over the race car you want. They could be all Aveos, its still a race car RWD under there.
I agree with you 100% there. However perception vs. reality often has more influence in business decisions. GM will market whatever car "name" is used in NASCAR, no matter how off it is from the production version.
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Chevelle is a cool muscle car. Point taken about the 4-dr though.
Chevelle was a cool muscle car, up until 1973. Then it became a bloated underpowered sedan in its last 5-8 years. (When did it end production? My buddy had a 1978 4-door he inherited from his mother-in-law. It was our primary commuter car to college back in the day. ) If the "Chevelle" name is to return, it needs to be a cool 2-door retro sedan along the lines of the Dodge Challenger. Otherwise the name should stay dead.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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I dunno. I remember the Chevelle as a budget midsize Chevy.

Today we think of Chevelle as cool because we see all those SSs from the mid 60s to the early 70s, but we forget that the only Chevelles anyone is going to spend time maintaining or restoring is going to be these high intrest models. also, the level of design for all cars in the 60s and even the 70s was much higher than in the 80s, 90s, and the 1st half of this decade. So of course these cars look cool, and we hear the word Chevelle and these restored, highstyled cars are what we think of.

When I was growing up my mom had a base '69 Chevelle station wagon. My cousin in Akron had a '66 El Camino. A cousin here had a 70 Chevelle Custom. A old girlfriend in highschool bought a '71 Chevelle. Before I went into the Navy, I even had a '75 Chevelle Malibu Classic. These were cheap, easy to insure cars that were no more special than a Honda Accord is today when I was growing up.

Cool cars back then was the Dusenburg-like Grand Prix, 60s era Ford Mustangs and Camaros, even GTOs were still cool (though almost no kids my age bought them because they had a rep for draining gas budgets).

Chevelles were what people on budgets and people who needed co-signers bought.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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I dunno. I remember the Chevelle as a budget midsize Chevy.

Today we think of Chevelle as cool because we see all those SSs from the mid 60s to the early 70s, but we forget that the only Chevelles anyone is going to spend time maintaining or restoring is going to be these high intrest models. also, the level of design for all cars in the 60s and even the 70s was much higher than in the 80s, 90s, and the 1st half of this decade. So of course these cars look cool, and we hear the word Chevelle and these restored, highstyled cars are what we think of.

When I was growing up my mom had a base '69 Chevelle station wagon. My cousin in Akron had a '66 El Camino. A cousin here had a 70 Chevelle Custom. A old girlfriend in highschool bought a '71 Chevelle. Before I went into the Navy, I even had a '75 Chevelle Malibu Classic. These were cheap, easy to insure cars that were no more special than a Honda Accord is today when I was growing up.

Cool cars back then was the Dusenburg-like Grand Prix, 60s era Ford Mustangs and Camaros, even GTOs were still cool (though almost no kids my age bought them because they had a rep for draining gas budgets).

Chevelles were what people on budgets and people who needed co-signers bought.
Theres something to that, but so was Camaro. My 69 was a 2bbl 350 bare bones with the flat hood. There were V6's and the like. The cool thing about those straight sixes is that alot of them the engines were ditched long ago so people drop their favorite V8 in them, and as long as you dont care about the VIN adding up, you have a genuine Camaro or Chevelle. That puts that many more cool Camaros/Chevelles are out there. There are 6 cyl Commadores like the old Chevelles, Im just not sure they will come here.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Well, let me revise what I said somewhat. I think it would be possible to revise the "Chevelle" name for a muscle oriented car -- I just don't think this is the car to use it on. If they're going to sell a Euro-style performance sedan, it doesn't make any sense to use the "It's a Hemi" Guys marketing plan.

But the real issue is that GM has *so many* good historical brand names (starting with Camaro), that it's hard to think of a really good use for Chevelle.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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FWIW, my first car was a 1967 Chevelle Malibu. It was a 2-door hardtop, with a 283 2-bbl V8 and 3-spd on the column. It even had a front bench seat. Although it wasn't technically a musclecar; it was cool looking, it did have a V8 and it did have only 2-doors. (It was also Matador Red. )

That said, I honestly don't see a point of changing the name. If its a Lumina or Caprice in the middle east, it should be a Lumina or Caprice in NA.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
FWIW, my first car was a 1967 Chevelle Malibu. It was a 2-door hardtop, with a 283 2-bbl V8 and 3-spd on the column. It even had a front bench seat. Although it wasn't technically a musclecar; it was cool looking, it did have a V8 and it did have only 2-doors. (It was also Matador Red. )

That said, I honestly don't see a point of changing the name. If its a Lumina or Caprice in the middle east, it should be a Lumina or Caprice in NA.
just to nit pick a bit... Even though I voted Chevelle Part of me also thinks why change the name... Keep it Commadore
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Chevy Commadore...not too bad
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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just to nit pick a bit... Even though I voted Chevelle Part of me also thinks why change the name... Keep it Commadore
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Chevy Commadore...not too bad
The problem I have is Commodore (or Commadore) isn't a Chevy brand, but a Holden one.

If you follow that logic, the GTO should've been called either Monaro or Lumina.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
The problem I have is Commodore (or Commadore) isn't a Chevy brand, but a Holden one.

If you follow that logic, the GTO should've been called either Monaro or Lumina.
Monaro maybe... not following the logic to keep an original renamed name such as Commadore or Monaro to Lumina when Lumina wasnt the original name of the car. Caprice was a Chevy name. I dont know when it became a Holden one but its currently a Holden car that doesnt yet exist by car or name in Chevy line up. Ford Falcon hasnt existed here for some time, however is alive and kicking in Austrailia. In the end if the car and name are cool enough everything else goes out the window.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
I say stay tuned because we disagree about that one.

I've been told by a certain person (whose also hinted it publically) that the next Impala would be about the same size as the current one.... which the Holden Caprice is (it has a deceptively long wheelbase).

Charlie's source believes it will be Commodore sized (a G6-like 190" long).

Based on how the project was sold (large roomy car for Police & Taxi markets, and a competitor for the LX which was rewriting the book on large cars at the time), actually seeing the difference between the Commodore and the Caprice, and knowing that GM won't be overlapping models of this chassis, I'm sticking with Caprice.

But still, just like finding out what's going to happen with GTO, stay tuned.

Who knows, I might be wrong.
An engineer might compare numbers while an exec might compare looks/feel of size. So they could both be right.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Hmm,
How about a LWB Impala and a SWB Chevelle (should'nt debut without a coupe version). And I still want my new El CaminoSS, dammit!
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Is anyone afraid that the Commadore may be confused with the Commodore?
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Is anyone afraid that the Commadore may be confused with the Commodore?
I guess thats possible. I just wanted to see what people thought a car like Chevelle or GTO was. Im not so sure myself anymore, but the 60's car had bold style. I think Commodore does too. It even almost looks like 4 front headlights almost. I wanted to see if you all thought not only is it worthy of a name like Chevelle, but does it fit what you guys think "what a Chevelle is" I also wanted to see what you guys thought about one car one name. A Commodore over there being a Commodore over here. I knew the thing would most likely be the G8 before I started the thread but that wasnt the point. It was just in fun seeing where people stand on stuff like this.

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