http://www.cnn.com/money/2005/06/07/...ex.htm?cnn=yes

Say it aint so!

 

Here is another article with more details on their plans.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...GM-Fix-ON.html

 

!#^!@# the union.

You know... I wonder if this might hurt GM's quality control... I sure wouldn't try as hard to build a quality product if I knew I was going to be fired along with all my friends and maybe even family members in the next year or three.

 

So if you don't hire someone to replace retired individuals and you fire some people then you think the company is going down the crapper?

Quick look the sky is falling.

 

Dude I'm a GM fan....a fan of the GM that used to be....bottom line thier products today are so far off from what the public wants its unreal....thier cars look terrible...in my line of work we use alot of rental vehicles....so I have driven alot of new cars and all I can say is GM cars and trucks compared to other brands today are junk...I literally hate driving most of thier cars and trucks...and I love driving stuff.....if they cant pull thier heads out of thier butts and make stuff people want and enjoy then it serves them right to be in the crapper....for flamming sake...yes I like the new vette...the GTO is a wonderful idea and drivetrain/**** poor execution of a car (big surprise no more after '08!)....of course the GM V-8 is awesome...but Cobalt SS...Malibu SS....dated trucks...Silverado SS (WTF)....ugly UGLY vans...FWD everything.....I could go on and on....GM needs to take a lesson from Dodge and Ford....grow some nutz.

350Z

 

So much to argue over. So little time.

Lets start with one thing, what makes GM cars junk?

They have as high or HIGHER quality ratings than Toyota or Nissan. Their plants are some of the best in the world.

So they make FWD cars, big Whoop that you don't like them, lots more people do. You are an enthusiest and therefore a minority-DEAL WITH IT.

What is wrong with the Cobalt SS? TONS of people love it, is it because it isn't RWD and V8? GET OVER IT! Not everthing is or should be RWD and with a V8.

BTW the GTO isn't dead or anywhere near the chopping block.

 

Ok man by junk I mean.........just sit in any new GM car the first thing that comes to mind is wow this thing is cheap...the product screams generic...I agree that quality wise there is nothing wrong with GM....I have nothing wrong with FWD....Hmmmm wonder why Ford and Dodge are making a killing off the Mustang...300C..Magnum...soon to be Charger..etc....GM offers nothing to compete with.....pick up this months issue of GMHTP...the GTO is on the way out...sorry...frankly I could care less what hidious crap GM deciedes to slap four wheels on and sell....it'll never be an '89 Iroc

350Z...outta here!

 

**** poor design and a lazy-*** workforce that builds them.

I don't care about ratings. I care about personal experience in one of those crapboxes.

I dealt with this by buying an import.

[QUOTE]What is wrong with the Cobalt SS? TONS of people love it, is it because it isn't RWD and V8? GET OVER IT! Not everthing is or should be RWD and with a V8.[/QUOTE

Tons of people love it? It's ugly and should have never hit the market. GM could have done better. Let's see those sales figures.

Poor sales can change that in a pico-second.

I'll never buy a GM again. Never ever. Down with their overpaid janitors/button-pushing monkeys/lazy *** builders. I saw that article as a victory for GM.

 

then why are the 300, magnum, and mustang runaway hot sellers? the old ladies and housewives i see tooling around in 300s definitely aren't enthusiasts.

 

GM is just too big, and lacking in visual varity.

The vette is nice, minus the headlights
Thgrand Am sells well, ncie car
The Monte Carlo is like never talked about now
There's no poor man's sports car/coupe from them right now.

 

GM went down the crapper a long time ago...
Their problem is, they never went back up .... jus kept going further down.

 

GM has a long way to go in terms of their cars for the most part.

I see people here talking about the Pontiac G6 being superior to the Honda Accord and the Buick Lacrosse being a worth competitor of the Lexus ES330.

WTF are you people smoking?

The same people that have the nerve to call the ES330 bland are now saying that the Lacrosse is great?

Wow.

And to make matters worse, the Lacrosse is a brand new design. The ES330 is getting a ground-up redesign and a boost to 280hp w/ an all new drivetrain in less than a year.

 

kyle, lexus really doesnt make much that most here would call anything other than bland. sure the quality is good but remember, these are the people that bought $35k+ cars with quality the same as a $15k cavalier. so its safe to assume they dont care about quality.

that said, i really only like the IS and SC300 cars. the IS actually looks good as well as has a decent aftermarket. the sc doesnt look that great but it IS 2 door and rwd. other than that the cars are overpriced and bland IMO.

 

UAWN3D.

Haha, i crack me up.

 

Don't be jealous or evil just because a Cobalt SS will eat your IROC alive.