I really liked the styling of that concept, but I still bitched about 4 doors, But maybe I was alone

 

wont lie... that is a sexy quad coupe... looks just like a 2 door, just 2 small doors instead 1 HUGE one... hah

cory

 

Wrong on price and sales, ands styling is a subjective thing.

Sales are exactly where GM wanted them to be. If sales were so horrible why was the GTO removed from Employee pricing, when it Employee Pricing was extended?

As for the price, what would you suggest the price be? Do keep in mind the 2002 SS, and WS6 cars were priced higher than the GTO is in 2006 if you got it optioned well enough. IMHO, there is a ton of car there for $33,000 when looking at the GTO.

As for styling... For everyone that says that the style is too boring there is just as many that would think the WS6 T/A was way too overdone.

Let me know about what you're thinking a fair price would be, keep in mind the competition, and real world factors.

 

Don't get freaked out, but understand that a next gen GTO is in a tough business situation. Before Zeta was cancelled last year, the GTO business case was no sweat. It would simply piggyback off the "Chevy coupe".

But when GM decided that the "Chevy Coupe" should actually be a Mustang competitor, (Camaro), the changes in the original architecture left the larger GTO without a business case.

So here we are....

BTW, the new smaller Camaro is projected to sell at maybe 50% greater volume than was projected for the larger "Chevy Coupe" and GTO combined.

 

I personally wouldn't mind a quad coupe Firebird if it looked sporty and it meant that I could actually open my door while parked next to someone. GTO would make more sense as a quad coupe than Firebird, however.

 

A 4 door GTO? I hope not. They seemed not to give a hoot about what the GTO looked like when they introduced it, so why not screw over the GTO even more by making it a 4 door.

 

what I want to know is which car this dude is Fighting for?




scott?

 

I think he's watching what happens with the Charger very carefully.

 

Well, I hope he notices that the Charger is not selling near as well as the 300....

And I hope he remembers that he has the Grand Prix name or they can use the G8 name that has been floating around to make a sporty sedan.

 

G8 with an LS2 and Awd would sell like Hotcakes.

 

well, I personally heard a lot of complaints about how expensive it is. and it's 35k. WHile that may have been equivalent to a loded 02 WS6, I was not i the market to buy a WS6 because it was so expensive. Get where I'm going with this?

I think they should have kept the 350hp version and priced it right at 29 in the begining. Then they should have intro-ed the 400 hp version for around 32-33.

And yes, sales did flounder in the begining. They picked up steam with the 05s but the 04s were available new very late into 05, as late as december from what I heard.

 

Nope... 2006 GTO starts at #31,990 MSRP.

http://www.pontiac.com/gto/index.jsp



That is fair, but then realize the car is not marketed toward you... that doesn't make it a failure, though.

An interesting idea... I believe they did keep the LS1 around for Monaro, so I suppose it was possible... but, as you can tell by the lack of options (everything is basically standard), I think they were trying to keep the possible variations on this car to a minimum because of it having to be imported from half way around the world....

This has been gone over a million times, but not a ton of people are wanting to pay $5-10k in dealer markup on any car, short of a newly intro'd Corvette or a supercar of some sorts...

Remember... even the 2004 GTO outsold the Mustang Mach I and Cobra.

 

The Charger was built as a four door or what ever you call it, and look how its done. No one complained about it not even Car and Driver but thats probley cause Mercades owns Chrysler. It might work after all think of it though they could build it like the Saturan's that had the one back door that opened backwards i thought it to be pretty cool.

 

tell me what you think:
build almost every rwd car on the zeta platform. ex: GTO, Camaro, Impala, G8, etc. give buick some muscle to play with say the GNX (fight lexus) and build it on the caddy cts platform along with most of the other buicks. this could give a lot of cars iterchagabilty making the production cheaper (impalas and camaros and gto's could be assembled in the same factory) but would still have good quality.

this could also be a farfected idea build the montecarlo and G6 with a smaller zeta and build with all wheel drive. take on the lancers and wrx's.

 

I loved that concept, that should have been the charger. I would have bought one for sure.

The GTO has grown on me so much that I will buy one this year. I think it is the perfect car for someone that wants daily driver, rwd, fun to drive v8 car. I love the styling of the 05. It could be more aggrestive but for what it is I love it.

A 4 door GTO, I might be sold if it is styled and priced right but for now I'll take a the current 2 door version.