this is pretty simple.

Stripped s/c (turbo would be much better) cobalt don't need all the leather seats, onstar,sunroof,power this power that.... $17,000 I think this car would be a hit OH and wingless. The car would be way more affordable to the group of buyers that want it. Plus they people could customize it how they wanted.

I know this is a long shot but AWD cobalt ss. IF it was the same price as the current ss. This would be a car I would consider trading the Trans Am in on. (turbo)

Saturn sky hard-top, turbo. Why would somebody buy any other 2 seat roadster??? This car would be a CRAZY hit with the import crowd. Remember how they put the GTO into the drift competitions? This car would be perfect for it.

Oh and don't forget an affordable, fast, good looking, Z28..... with the I-6 being the standard engine that would only be 10hp shy of the mustang gt's 300hp

TONY

 

Huh? Why do you want a straight six in the base Camaro? This isn't 1967.

 

FWIW - The dealer where I got mine was all to happy to swap out my SS decklid with a spoilerless decklid from a Cobalt coupe in the same color . I go back next week to have it done . Also , the car is affordable right NOW . With GMS , my $24.6 dropped to $21.3 and Ive seen some of the lower option SS's between $19-20K .

 

Agreed.

 

well the cobalt isn't intended to be chevy's bread and butter, so why would they start offering stripped (aka race) version of it? it could be me, but having an economical car with good daily driver comfort (like a small sedan) that moves pretty well sounds good to me. the cobalt SS sounds like a good daily driver for someone who has an f-body to tear it up on the weekends. I have heard that the cobalt ss is switching to an equvilant turbo for 2006 or 7. i could sure use a comfortable daily driver that gets 24mpg city. : )

 

i really don't think gm is aiming for the rice croud with this car, but i could be wrong. I think they released the ion redline for that, and it flopped from what i have seen, or seen lack of (ion redlines). i think gm is just trying to hit it with people that they make a reasonable and quick car from a small platform. the wing needs to go, but the car seems to be taking off well as it is. really no reason for gm to offer a race version on any superriced out body kitted pep boy edition. the aftermarket will do that for them.

 

I'll let you in on a dirty little secret, toneloc12345:
Stripped performance cars don't sell.

Don't believe me?

Base 2002 Camaro Z28s listed for about $23K, and with discounts and such could be had for under $20K. Yet next to zero were ordered that way.

Another example? Ever hear of the Mustang GTS? Betcha you haven't. They were around in 94 & 95. It was an option delete group in '96. Yet you could gather all those who bought them around a table and play a good poker game.

People who buy performance cars tend to buy them well optioned, unless they are already loaded. Even the lowly SRT-4 is very much near loaded in base form. A $17,000 Cobalt SS is likely to sell worse than the $21,000.

Also, I don't think you'll get any takers on a Z28 with an I6. Given that GM needs to sell alot of cars with a certain engine to make up for certification costs, I'd say that idea's dead at the scene... forget dead on arrival.

 

I guess a 6 cyl base camaro with 290hp wasn't a good idea sounds better than the I-5 in fullsize trucks. No need to inform me that now the I-6's are going in them now.

So if nobody bought the lower optioned z28s why in the H3ll does everyone complain about how they always cost more than mustangs?

TONY

 

Ding, ding, ding! Give that man a prize!

 

Most of the folks who complain weren't going to buy one anyway. You'll find a lot of whining about price on enthusiast websites from a lot of people who really aren't in the market anyway. The tempest in a teapot concerning the new Z06 pricing is a good example.

Personally speaking, I had the chance to buy a stripped Z28. Could have ordered it with ease. Ended up realizing that when resale was considered, the full-book SS made more sense.

One of the things that tripped the wire, so to speak, was the fact that uprated tires and the associated removal of top speed limitations were part of a package, so the price started getting driven up from there.

 

THe most stripped I'd ever want a car is A/C, PW,PL, cruise, remote keyless, CD/MP3, Trac/stability control, ABS, side air bags.

Resale on cars with no power windows or locks is brutal.

 

I read your original post as a 6 cyl Z28, not a 6 cyl Camaro. I think a 290 hp base Camaro wouldn't be a bad idea, but Z28's should only have V8 power.

 

LOL - given the chance, I would have ordered my Cobra with no A/C, cloth seats, "normal" stereo, no TC, and (perish the thought) a live axle. I'm probably leaving 'on' a few things, but you get the picture. Don't give a rats *** about resale, cause that's not why I would buy it.

That said, I understand completely that I am in the minority - and a very small minority at that.

BTW....go find a 87-93 Mustang Coupe with manual locks/windows and compare the price to one with all the options.

 

You're overlooking the Fox body Mustang LX. It sold like gangbusters and in many people's eyes is more desirable than the Mustang GT with the same drivetrain. The key comes down to making the "lesser" car more desirable in some ways. For the LX, it was 200 lbs lighter, less ugly, and much cheaper. And you could still get most of the power toys if you wanted them. In a similar vein, a Firebird Formula was a cheaper way to get a go-fast pony car than of a Trans Am.

I think it could work with the Cobalt. You wouldn't want to strip it down like an Iraqi Taxi, but ditch the spoiler, sunroof, OnStar, 18" wheels, body cladding, and a few thousand off the MSRP, and you could have something. Remember Cobalts are targeted at more price-sensitive market than f-bodies. Having a $17000 Cobalt SSS would be a very tempting alternative to a tarted up Corolla even for diehard import buyers. Perhaps that's GM's plan with the 2.4L version, but it's not going to stand out nearly as well.

 

To make the car affordable with respectable HP. 1967 or not, you get good power out of an inline engine.