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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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UAW endorses anti-auto industry candidate

http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosins...b01-104155.htm
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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I saw this and just shook my head.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Big surprise; the UAW endorsed the dem candidate.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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That's a given, the union leadership is in lock step with the Democrat party, regardless of what's good for its actual members. That much has not changed in decades.

But look where all the union endorsements got Gephardt....NOWHERE. Endorsements by union leaders are not what they once were, and union membership is increasingly diversified in how they vote.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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...and union membership is increasingly diversified in how they vote.
Thats because the only thing I agree with democrats on is labor issues. I disagree with almost everything else that comes out of their mouths.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Thats because the only thing I agree with democrats on is labor issues. I disagree with almost everything else that comes out of their mouths.
As far as labor issues go....for the UAW's sake...I hope the American public will be completely in love with the idea of buying millions of 40 mpg Aveo's.







Oh wait...they're built in Korea. Well don't worry, he may flip flop on his proposal to raise CAFE by 50% and add a $.50 per gallon gas tax.

Or maybe not......

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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It's pretty predictable that there would be the usual knee-jerk reaction that automatically assumes Democrats are bad and Republicans are good for the auto industry. The same thing happened when Clinton & Gore got in.

It's easy to forget that a democrat administration finally left setting speed limits up to the states, refused to raise CAFE, and kept new automotive regulations to an unprecidented minimum.

It's also obvious that it's easy to forget a republican administration is attempting to raise fuel economy standards for trucks, revised crash standards to even higher levels, & stated publically that outsourcing jobs to other countries is good for the economy.

The auto industry's biggest proponent and regulation blocker is a democrat.

Both parties have their whack-jobs and nut cases. For democrats, it the tree-hugging, granola eating, apologists that seem to be plentiful in northern California. Republicans have people who have no qualms about wrecking the economy with mindless tax cuts for the millonaire club, sending jobs overseas, and diverting money needed for roads and actually financing homeland security into even more tax cuts, while diverting attention with school prayers, gays, and whatever else is handy.

I don't profess to know what Kerry's going to do when he gets in, but I'm actually going to take time to find out before I come to conclusions. If the UAW supports him, does anyone in their right mind think his 1st priority is going to throw them into the unemployment line by creating a situation that is going to result in less auto sales?

Though I'm independent, he got my attention because he actually served in Vietnam (with 3 purple hearts), is an advid hunter, and because despite 3 years of a republican congress & Presidency, we have a massive increase in spending, a massive deficit that it seems no one is taking serious (with Fed Chairman Greenspan all but promising to raise intrest rates if not quickly dealt with.... hardly productive for car sales), and seems to be a quick study and not afraid to change his position (something that in today's political enviroment is called flip-flopping... a quality every good President I can think of has had).

Though I haven't made up my mind yet, I personally hope that if Bush wins, congress goes democrat, or if Kerry wins, congress is split. Seems this keeps the crazies of both parties at bay.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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I don't even want to get into details, but from what I've already researched on Kerry, I won't be voting for him. BTW, his Vietnam service doesn't mean squat. He earned his silver star by chasing down a wounded Vietcong soldier and shooting him in the back after beaching his craft (big no no) and putting his crew at risk. On top of that, right after the war he suddenly becomes anti-war. Married his first wife for her 350 million, tried to annul the marriage (after having two kids no less) and finally divorces her for a woman with 750 million. This man has nothing more on his mind than political gain and money.

While many don't agree with Bush, the man at least has integrity and some patriotism. Homosexuals, prayer and many other issues are important to me.

And what many give Clinton credit for they forget was done during a Republican Congress. There's plenty of praise and damnation to go around for both parties. Lest ye forget, Clinton increased our national debt 1.5 trillion all the while claiming a budget surplus. That's only 100 million less than Reagan who pretty much brought down the Soviet Union. Clinton had one of the best economies too. Don't forget, jobs were being farmed out of America at alarming rates during his watch too. Corporate scandals started during his watch. Bush has inherited a lot of crap from the previous administration. I have to admit I'm impressed with how he's handled it so far. I doubt any of us could have done any better. I just thank God Gore wasn't in office...
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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I don't have it all figured out either, but here's some things I've read...:
"Solidarity" Apr.2004:

"The Bush administration recently told congress that it intends to enter trade negociations with Thailand, a MAJOR producer of fast-selling pick up trucks for the Japanese automakers. Low wages in Thailand auto plants create a significant pricing advantage over U.S. built vehicles. To address this "Imbalance" there is currently a 25% tarrif on vehicles imported from Thailand.
Left unchecked, Bush's negociations are likely to follow the "failed NAFTA model" by negociating a deal to eliminate the tarrif.This will delight the Japanese firms, allowing them to "flood" the U.S. market with vehicles made with the Low-Cost labor. The proposed U.S./Thailand "FREE"(not "Fair")trade pact could threaten the jobs of 20,000! U.A.W. members who assemble fast-selling pick-up trucks.
Talk on this treaty could start as soon as March 30.."


"Free the Drug Market"
According to Goerge W.Bush, it's a "free market".
...A car company can move its Factories to Mexico.
...A Toy company can outsource to a Chinese sub-contractor.
...A Major Bank can incorporate in Bermuda to 'avoid taxes".
But heaven help the elderly who DARE to buy their perscription drugs from a Canadian Pharmacy.


"Effects of NAFTA and FREE TRADE"
The U.S. Trade Deficit for 2003 was a record $489.4 BILLION!.
The 2003 Trade Deficit:
$54.4 Billion with Cananda.
$40.6 Billion with Mexico.
$66 Billion with Japan.
..and a Whopping $124 Billion with China.
"76% of consumers looking for American-Made goods, say they have a hard time finding them."
"The Toy Industry Association says at least 75% of toys sold in the U.S. are foriegn made."
"96% of clothing purchased in the United States is imported...WalMart Alone will import nearly $12 BILLION in goods from China in 2004."
"Our industrial base is jeopardized. If we ever have to go to war again, like we did in World War II, we're going to have a REAL PROBLEM b/c our industrial base is being eroded along with our jobs...We need to change that so we're safe Millitarily, number one and we're protecting American jobs. I believe in free trade, but I also believe in fair trade. And that means we need to negociate very hard with our trading partners, and the multilateral trade agreements like NAFTA simply DON'T WORK. (Rep- Dan Burton, R-Ind.)
(There are also NUMEROUS Environmental issues and laws being side-stepped by moving to countries like Mexico, where companies can continue to heavily pollute our environment and keep selling US the products made just over the border with NO TARRIFS..like DDT on Produce..)

"Common Interests"
"Not only do corporations have too much influence on Government through campaign contributions and "Corporate Lobbyists", they are increasingly "becoming the Government" . Bush and Cheney are both former C.E.O.'s...whose interests do you think they will protect?"

"Bush Country"
"As governor of Texas, Goerge W. Bush "didn't do anything".
He lied about education and the schools. And then I hear on today's news that His people backed away from their original forecast of creating more than 300,000 jobs a month for 2004, he added "In Texas, we've seen it all before."
This being George W. Bush's home state, we were hoping to keep him here as governor as long as we could, IN ORDER TO SAVE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. said Nedra Kinerk, a retired professor from Indiana University's Kokomo Campus now living in Harlingen. "We'll do most anything we can do to stop the DAMAGE he's doing."
"As governor, Goerge W. Bush's tax cuts in Texas DEVESTATED education, health care, and many other areas, and he's done the same thing since he's been President," said Kinerk..
(Bush also seeks to eliminate Overtime PAY for Overtime hours. This may mean 48-60 hour work weeks..)

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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In addition to the UAW, Kerry has gotten endorsements from KIM Chong-il, the Stalinist dictator of North Korea; José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, the radical, left wing socialist President Elect of Spain...who believes we should go after Al Qaeda using only law enforcement...not military action (READ AS: the US should not have the right to self-defense)...and, "other" unknown foreign leaders.

In addition, there are intelligence reports that Al Qaeda wants to bomb oil refineries in Texas before the election....in order to affect it's outcome...as they were so successful in doing in Spain. Guess who they would want to win?
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by 90rocz
"Bush Country"
"As governor of Texas, Goerge W. Bush "didn't do anything".
He lied about education and the schools. And then I hear on today's news that His people backed away from their original forecast of creating more than 300,000 jobs a month for 2004, he added "In Texas, we've seen it all before."
This being George W. Bush's home state, we were hoping to keep him here as governor as long as we could, IN ORDER TO SAVE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. said Nedra Kinerk, a retired professor from Indiana University's Kokomo Campus now living in Harlingen. "We'll do most anything we can do to stop the DAMAGE he's doing."
"As governor, Goerge W. Bush's tax cuts in Texas DEVESTATED education, health care, and many other areas, and he's done the same thing since he's been President," said Kinerk..
(Bush also seeks to eliminate Overtime PAY for Overtime hours. This may mean 48-60 hour work weeks..)
As a Texas resident, I don't know what this person is talking about. I didn't see any of this and I've been here for years. Education received more money while he was governor. Health care is a national issue, not state. Also, people need to read and understand what the overtime pay bill is about. It's not what a lot of people think...uninformed people are dangerous.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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uninformed people are dangerous.
I agree, as are people with "blinders" on...

Don't forget, Bush was the one pushing to invade a sovern nation, read Iraq, under pretense of they possess"Weapons of mass destruction", he has neither shown proof of ANY, nor has he responded to the Congressional Inquiry for a Post Explanation of his Invasion...We went to WAR, and our friends and family members died and are dying with no proof or right to be there, the New Vietnam right before our eyes...
And to all those with blinders on, it WAS always about the oil, and Soddam's real crimes were siphoning oil money to support terrorism and personal wealth, disobeying OPEC's pricing/production mandates...they believe the only way to control terrorism, is to control their income, said OIL...Does anyone not fear we're near the brink of another World War...and now our industries crippled from "Free-Trade" and manufacturing job exporting, putting our National security at risk...(IMO)
And now instead of having ONE BinLaden we will have HUNDREDS, as arabs watch the plundering of their natural resources by companies like Haliburton, who Bush says opening the oil up to private enterprise is the only way to Iraq's economic recovery, tho it will be "hush-hush" during the Election Year..And our Homeland Security when compared to Hitler's version, are so nearly IDENTICAL it's really frightening!...check for yourself..

Yeah you're right the "un-informed are dangerous, especially if they re-elect Bush...
No, Kerry is NOT the "best" choice, but he IS the lessor of the 2 so called "evils" this go around...
(But they are both "Skull & Bones" men, who is informed knows what I mean..)


(.."and the truth will set you free"...visit infowars.com documented proof is available, Gov't documents etc...)

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Iraq is NOTHING LIKE VIETNAM. Vietnam, which was started by Democrats...was a totally different deal. I'm sorry that soldiers and others have died, that's war. War sucks. But I'm very happy to see someone like Saddam Hussien gone. The Arab world is pretty screwed up anyway (I've done lots of research on Islam). Personally I don't have problems with the people, brainwashed and ignorant as a lot of them are, but I have several issues with their religion. Terrorism from these people isn't going to go away, but it's much better to fight it over there than it is over here on our soil. Whether or not Saddam had WMD bothers me very little. The FACT that he sponsored terrorism does. It's not about oil, if it were our gas wouldn't be hitting near $2.00 a gallon. Gas prices are higher now than they were before the war! So don't tell me it's about oil. Jobs going overseas has been happening for decades. It's only now becoming an issue during his presidency. Bad luck for him, but don't forget that a lot of this ramped up during Clinton's terms in office too. WTH is everyone comparing Bush to Hitler That's got to be the most rediculous thing I've heard from most of the anti-war people. Geez, protest communism, it's killed 100 million in the last century. Can't do that? Not politically correct to pick on Commies? Well, just call some Republicans ***** then, that's OK...
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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If you want to vote for Kerry, you might as well just do this:

Staple a check for a few thousand to your ballot.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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I agree, as are people with "blinders" on...

Don't forget, ...................(BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.......RADICAL LEFT WING PABLUM............).................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................
(.."and the truth will set you free"...visit infowars.com documented proof is available, Gov't documents etc...)
You have got to be kidding me!

You get your news from infowars.com?????????

You may want to balance that out with news from MAD magazine.

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