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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by falchulk
Maybe the forth coming Explorer Sport trac on steroids...................
Yup. 390hp S/c'd 4.6 (same one as 03/04 Cobra??) with AWD.

Slt, tow rating for the SRT8 is 3,500lbs. Nothing impressive, but it should be fine for most tasks. Kinda dissapointed cause i believe Ford is promising a 6,000+lbs tow-rating for the upcoming SVT sporttrac and the tow rating for the TB SS is 6,700lbs with Rwd and 6,500lbs with AWD. Towing is one area the Jeep falls behind.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason E
Darth,

I agree with you...get AWD. I know Charlie mentions what the hell do you lug it around for when you consider in some areas, it probably will only benefit you 5 days a year. For me? I could have used it a couple days last week, and it wasn't even December yet!

slt,
Back when I used to work full time at the dealership, during bad snow storms I would take a used '02 Bravada home, even though my '02 GA GT had snows on it. Those 360s can do great drifts in snow I think you'll enjoy it...I know a 270hp I6 Bravada was fun!

30th,
Everything Olds made was better Its sad, because for as much as I crow about Olds, I will likely never own one. By the time Ash and I are ready for our next cars, they'll all be too old. We were thinking of getting her an '04 Alero GL2 coupe (the ones with the FE3 suspension and V6 standard) back in the spring before her Grand Am showed up on trade...and the deal on that was too good to say no to. I'm selling '02 Bravadas with Bose, moonroof, heated leather, polished wheels, 6 CD and more for friggen $15,500 with 37k These were $37k MSRP cars in '02...no one wants an Olds because "how can I get them fixed? How good can they be if they don't make them anymore?"

Keep your Intrigue for a long, long time. A GLS is a gorgeous car, and you won't get crap for it. I almost bought an '02 GLS the day I bought my GP GT, but I really wanted a coupe. The sad thing was, the Intrigue was a nicer car with more stuff for less $$$!

What color is yours? Ruby Red with Neutral Leather was always my favorite GLS combo...we sold a ton that color. Navy with grey was a hot car too, but they killed navy after '00 IIRC.
Well the Intrigue is the wife's car and its been a great car so far. Ours is NBM with Neutral/Tan Leather interior combo. Its loaded with everything except the rear spoiler. For the $$ I don't think you can find a nicer car. I'd like to keep the miles off of it, but we drive it everywhere. I have a take home Crown Vic that I can drive off duty, but the wife hates riding in it even though the gas is free . I am going to try and keep the Z in the garage this winter, so that leaves the Intrigue.
I saw a '01 Intrigue in the local auto trader in a dealer ad for $3,500. It did have slightly over 100K miles on it, but still resale really sucks. In the long run miles probably don't matter, by the time were ready to trade it in we won't get anything for it anyway.
Now I wish we would have held out for an Aurora, at the time we couldn't afford one, but now they are dirt cheap, even with the 4.0.

I wouldn't mind having another Olds later on, but like you I think they will be too old when the time comes, unless we come across one of those final 500 cars that is in excellent shape.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Re: Trailblazer SS review.

Originally Posted by slt
I think the Jeep is underated. It looks like the SS runs mid 14's and around a 6 sec 0-60. The Jeep runs high 13's and around a 5 sec 0-60. If it can't tow, though, then it useless to me
I thought we weren't trusting Edmunds for times?
With AWD, that TB SS could probably hit 5.something 0-60 and get a 13 as well. They are both around the same performance wise, like Jason said.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Trailblazer SS review.

Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
Slt, tow rating for the SRT8 is 3,500lbs. Nothing impressive, but it should be fine for most tasks. Kinda dissapointed cause i believe Ford is promising a 6,000+lbs tow-rating for the upcoming SVT sporttrac and the tow rating for the TB SS is 6,700lbs with Rwd and 6,500lbs with AWD. Towing is one area the Jeep falls behind.
The tow rating is what attracts me to the TB SS. Of course AWD + LS2 doesn't hurt either The only thing that would make me feel any better about them is if they get the 6L80E like the 06 Vette has behind it's LS2.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
I thought we weren't trusting Edmunds for times?
With AWD, that TB SS could probably hit 5.something 0-60 and get a 13 as well. They are both around the same performance wise, like Jason said.

Why do you keep saying that? The SRT8 puts out a good 30 more horsepower then the LS2 SS.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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I hope to pick one up as well.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Why do you keep saying that? The SRT8 puts out a good 30 more horsepower then the LS2 SS.
I don't doubt the GC might be slightly quicker, but it seems everybody is thinking it's gonna destroy the SS. I see them being very close competitors with the GC edging it slightly.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Slt, tow rating for the SRT8 is 3,500lbs.
Thats what I suspected. Hard to pull .9g+ and still be able to pull a load. If it cant tow, then whats the point? I'd rather have a car that owns them all. A black SS pulling my boat is going to look so sweet next year 4 more months till summer
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
I don't doubt the GC might be slightly quicker, but it seems everybody is thinking it's gonna destroy the SS. I see them being very close competitors with the GC edging it slightly.
x2...makes sense to me. I don't doubt the SS might lose some of the hairy edge, but like every other SS sibling...what it gives up in that max performance, it makes up for in usability. Consider the Silverado SS (arguably the weakest comparison) to the Lightning, the Cobalt SS Supercharged to the SRT-4, the TB SS to the GC SRT-8, and the Impala SS to the Charger R/T (at least up here, FWD gives it an edge for usability)...

I like the TB SS a lot...not even close to being able to afford one though. And to be honest, the whole "performance SUV" thing isn't my cup of tea, anyway. But for those who want one, they're cool.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Just got the new MT and it had a little booklet in it with all the SRT cars (loved all except the SRT6 crossfire). In it, Chrysler is promising 4.X 0-60 and 13.Xsec 1/4 miles.

I don't see why the Ls2 TB SS wouldn't be capable of atleast low 5's and flat 14's by comparison. I expect the SRT GC to put up high 4's for 0-60 and high 13's for the 1/4 mile. As far as handling/braking, I have no idea, but i kinda expect the GC to have a slight edge.

Btw: In the booklet they mentioned how the SRT8 charger starts off at 35k. I thought it was more than that. That's actually a pretty good price.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Re: Trailblazer SS review.

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Why do you keep saying that? The SRT8 puts out a good 30 more horsepower then the LS2 SS.
Well, the Trailblazer SS is around 4550lbs. The Grand Cherokee SRT-8 weights in at 4788lbs if my google search can be trusted. Weight is on the Trailblazers side. Jeep Hemi = 415Hp. Trailblazer LS2 = 391HP. 24Hp difference, 238lb weight difference. From the numbers it looks like both of these vehicles will have very similar performance to one another. That is not even taking into account how much power is actually making it to the wheels, in which case the Jeep could very well make the same power as the Chevy (or lower). It would be nice to see some dynographs, but considering that probably won't be possible for some time, I don't think they can be counted on.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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I would like to add that a lot of the reason the SRT pulls better times than the TB SS is gearing. It is geared pretty low and so get horrible gas mileage.
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I remember hearing about the srt8 getting mid 13's and the TBSS getting something like 13.9. My brother drove one of the pre-production vehicles of the SS since he works for eaton and was working on the posi-unit in it's nice 14 bolt rear end. He said that he was keeping up with/beating a bunch of mustangs on the highway and enjoyed watching their shocked faces. It's nice having an insider so I can learn which vehicles will soon get superchargers and the other supercharger advancement .
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Trailblazer SS review.

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
You have a legitimate point... no doubt. And I guess I could accept that if they were particularly "wimpy" colors, but in the end... if someone is shelling out all that money, and the paint color is already available at the factory, and on the lower line cars.... I think the buyer should be able to choose that.

ESPECIALLY on the Z06... not like they are going to put a Grandma color on the regular Vette anyway, so I REALLY don't see thier logic there.

Maybe it should be the opposite way, and you should get additional exclusive color choices if you order up the top-of-the-line model... !!!




Thank you. It helps keep my mind off things..........
while the paint may be available in the factory, not all the parts on the car (I believe) are painted in the factory. I don't know exactly how we're producing the TrailBlazer SS......I know the Camaro and Firebird were sent to SLP and ASC respectively. The Suburban LTZ and Z71 and Tahoe Z71 (800 series) are sent out to (I can't remember the supplier) to get the conversion.

The bottom line is that the TB-SS has unique panels (such as fascias and such) and as a result, matching colors is a very expensive proposition....so colors are selected (in limited numbers) .....not what you want to hear, but that's just reality.

(you could not get an SS or a Firehawk or Z71/LTZ in every color either)
Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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If GM is smart, they will price the TB SS 10K below the GC SRT. This way it will not directly compete with it.

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