Traction Control ...
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Traction Control ...
Just to split this discussion from the 4-pot Camaro thread ...
Generally speaking I agree with the Fbodfather
.... it's there for the unexpected.
I drove my Camaro the first winter, just to prove it could be done. With skinny winter tires and a couple of hundred pounds in the trunk it performed flawlessly. What I found though was that in snow in town, where traction was severely limited, I preferred driving with the traction control off.
I also agree with the statement that it should be available on all RWD vehicles..... I'd say standard equipment, but now that ABS has returned to the option realm
Generally speaking I agree with the Fbodfather
.... it's there for the unexpected.I drove my Camaro the first winter, just to prove it could be done. With skinny winter tires and a couple of hundred pounds in the trunk it performed flawlessly. What I found though was that in snow in town, where traction was severely limited, I preferred driving with the traction control off.
I also agree with the statement that it should be available on all RWD vehicles..... I'd say standard equipment, but now that ABS has returned to the option realm
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Re: Traction Control ...
Originally posted by poSSum
Just to split this discussion from the 4-pot Camaro thread ...
Generally speaking I agree with the Fbodfather .... it's there for the unexpected.
I drove my Camaro the first winter, just to prove it could be done. With skinny winter tires and a couple of hundred pounds in the trunk it performed flawlessly. What I found though was that in snow in town, where traction was severely limited, I preferred driving with the traction control off.
I also agree with the statement that it should be available on all RWD vehicles..... I'd say standard equipment, but now that ABS has returned to the option realm
Just to split this discussion from the 4-pot Camaro thread ...
Generally speaking I agree with the Fbodfather
.... it's there for the unexpected.I drove my Camaro the first winter, just to prove it could be done. With skinny winter tires and a couple of hundred pounds in the trunk it performed flawlessly. What I found though was that in snow in town, where traction was severely limited, I preferred driving with the traction control off.
I also agree with the statement that it should be available on all RWD vehicles..... I'd say standard equipment, but now that ABS has returned to the option realm
http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...xurysport.html
Click on the StabiliTrak link to launch an interactive thingee...
It'd probably be a hefty option, especially since even on CTS it only comes on the Luxury Sport top model, but I think it is great technology...
Patent Pending...
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All for traction control (with off switch). I don't drive normally laying tire all over the place, and when I do feel frisky, I push a button & have at it.
The automatic on feature is a great idea too. Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
The automatic on feature is a great idea too. Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
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Originally posted by guionM
All for traction control (with off switch). I don't drive normally laying tire all over the place, and when I do feel frisky, I push a button & have at it.
The automatic on feature is a great idea too. Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
All for traction control (with off switch). I don't drive normally laying tire all over the place, and when I do feel frisky, I push a button & have at it.
The automatic on feature is a great idea too. Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
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Originally posted by guionM
Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
Now, if they would get rid of that retarted auto on/ no way off headlight system.
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
I don't mind the auto headlight system... but they DO need to put an override switch so you can turn it off if you don't like it.
I don't mind the auto headlight system... but they DO need to put an override switch so you can turn it off if you don't like it.
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I have a question about ASR..supposedly it works two ways..
#1 by cutting power to the rear oviously
#2 By individually braking the rear wheel that is slipping.
Now my question involves #2...supposedly ASR does this only in Z28's because they come with the limited slip rear...Well my V6 car has the optional 3.42 Limited slip rear ..so will it also have the individual tire braking funtion?
#1 by cutting power to the rear oviously
#2 By individually braking the rear wheel that is slipping.
Now my question involves #2...supposedly ASR does this only in Z28's because they come with the limited slip rear...Well my V6 car has the optional 3.42 Limited slip rear ..so will it also have the individual tire braking funtion?
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There is a difference in the sytems between V6 (2 phase) and V8 (three phase.)
Both have a throttle kickback...which causes the gas pedal to 'kick back' at you to let you know that traction control has been engaged. A light on the I.P. will also illuminate.
Both have a 'throttle relaxer' (no, I didn;t make up that term...) This reduces the timing and will bring the car down almost to idle -- to stop the rear wheel from spinning -- regardless of how hard you push on the gas pedal. (feels kinda weird.........)
The V8, however, also is tied into the braking system.....after throttle kickback, the brake is applied to whichever rear wheel is spinning, thereby assuring that the power is delivered to the other rear wheel via the zexel-torsen differential.
Naturally, both systems have the on/off switch (for those of us who like to 'smoke 'em' once in a while)....but additionally, there are times -- esp. in deep snow where it is necessary to build up speed to go thru deep snow and throttle relaxer would not be desired..... This would also apply to where you would desire to 'rock' the car back and forth to get out of, say a ditch (what were you doing there in the first place, huh????) or very deep snow.
The V8 system is a very good system and saves a lot of people from fish-tailing (unexpectedly) on wet roads or roads that have sand or other material that deteriorate traction.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I don't care HOW good a driver you are (or think you are) the traction control should be left on while driving unless, of course, you are at a track or have reason to want to 'chirp 'em or smoke 'em.' (not that I"D ever attempt to do such a thing!!!!
Both have a throttle kickback...which causes the gas pedal to 'kick back' at you to let you know that traction control has been engaged. A light on the I.P. will also illuminate.
Both have a 'throttle relaxer' (no, I didn;t make up that term...) This reduces the timing and will bring the car down almost to idle -- to stop the rear wheel from spinning -- regardless of how hard you push on the gas pedal. (feels kinda weird.........)
The V8, however, also is tied into the braking system.....after throttle kickback, the brake is applied to whichever rear wheel is spinning, thereby assuring that the power is delivered to the other rear wheel via the zexel-torsen differential.
Naturally, both systems have the on/off switch (for those of us who like to 'smoke 'em' once in a while)....but additionally, there are times -- esp. in deep snow where it is necessary to build up speed to go thru deep snow and throttle relaxer would not be desired..... This would also apply to where you would desire to 'rock' the car back and forth to get out of, say a ditch (what were you doing there in the first place, huh????) or very deep snow.
The V8 system is a very good system and saves a lot of people from fish-tailing (unexpectedly) on wet roads or roads that have sand or other material that deteriorate traction.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I don't care HOW good a driver you are (or think you are) the traction control should be left on while driving unless, of course, you are at a track or have reason to want to 'chirp 'em or smoke 'em.' (not that I"D ever attempt to do such a thing!!!!
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Originally posted by Red Planet
This would also apply to where you would desire to 'rock' the car back and forth to get out of, say a ditch (what were you doing there in the first place, huh????) or very deep snow.
This would also apply to where you would desire to 'rock' the car back and forth to get out of, say a ditch (what were you doing there in the first place, huh????) or very deep snow.
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This is kinda one of your pets, isn't it ?
Originally posted by Red Planet
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I don't care HOW good a driver you are (or think you are) the traction control should be left on while driving unless, of course, you are at a track or have reason to want to 'chirp 'em or smoke 'em.' (not that I"D ever attempt to do such a thing!!!!
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I don't care HOW good a driver you are (or think you are) the traction control should be left on while driving unless, of course, you are at a track or have reason to want to 'chirp 'em or smoke 'em.' (not that I"D ever attempt to do such a thing!!!!
When we discussed this in H-Town, some of the guys disagreed. If memory serves me correctly, it was the guys that did not use their cars as a daily driver !
If ya don't drive your car ever in inclement conditions, it's hard to appreciate this feature.
Oh, for another "Pet" (Peeve) :
Red -
Whaddya think 'bout that '03 Cobra ??
Just Kidding !!!
Nice to meet ya, BTW. 
Britt
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