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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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GM announces RWD

Mark Hogan, GM vp of advanced vehicles announced a new family of RWD vehicles co-developed with Holden.

It's in AutoNews.com.....but for some reason it won't let me open rest of page.

If you're registered, tell me what else it says.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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CHICAGO - GM North America will develop a family of rear-drive cars with Holden Motor Ltd. in Australia, says Mark Hogan, GM group vice president for advanced vehicle development.

Some of the cars will be assembled in the United States and marketed by Chevrolet and Pontiac and will debut around 2007.

"Holden will be responsible for engineering (the architecture), and we are providing the management team with respect to the North American applications," Hogan says. "I have a group of guys at Holden as we speak working on the next generation for North America."

In the meantime, Pontiac will sell the V-8-powered 2004 Pontiac GTO coupe, which is built in Australia and based on the current-generation rwd Holden Monaro. The GTO goes on sale in November.

Powerful, rear-drive cars are making a comeback in the United States. Dodge, for example, will sell the Magnum, equipped with a 5.7-liter V-8, starting in spring 2004.

In January, a GM spokesman said Chevrolet would add a rwd car later in the decade but declined to be specific. It currently sells the rwd Corvette.

GM is developing most of its vehicle architectures for global applications. For example, GM's new mid-sized Epsilon architecture is shared by the 2003 Saab 9-3, Opel Vectra, 2004 Chevrolet Malibu and Malibu Maxx, and the 2005 Pontiac Grand Am.

In GM parlance, an architecture includes common components, build sequence, range of dimensions and connecting points between subsystems.

Hogan says the new rwd architecture developed with Holden will be able to produce various models, as the current architecture does.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks Ude!
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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well, nothing new..
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Ude-lose
Powerful, rear-drive cars are making a comeback in the United States.
It's about time.


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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Its very nice to know that this is official now. The article mentions Chevy and Pontiac, but I wonder if Buick would see a version as well, or if it would just use Sigma.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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CHICAGO - GM North America will develop a family of rear-drive cars with Holden Motor Ltd. in Australia, says Mark Hogan, GM group vice president for advanced vehicle development.

Some of the cars will be assembled in the United States and marketed by Chevrolet and Pontiac and will debut around 2007.

"Holden will be responsible for engineering (the architecture), and we are providing the management team with respect to the North American applications," Hogan says. "I have a group of guys at Holden as we speak working on the next generation for North America."

GM is developing most of its vehicle architectures for global applications. For example, GM's new mid-sized Epsilon architecture is shared by the 2003 Saab 9-3, Opel Vectra, 2004 Chevrolet Malibu and Malibu Maxx, and the 2005 Pontiac Grand Am.

Newsflash: GM of North America decides that it isn't interested in designing anything other than full-sized trucks/SUVs, Corvettes and Cadillacs. Their Opel affiliate in Europe is taking over FWD platform design and Holden will take mainstream RWD applications. This is hardly surprising, considering that the new compact/midsized trucks are very much Isuzu designs.

So much for "Detroit iron."
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Mark Hogan, GM vp of advanced vehicles announced a new family of RWD vehicles co-developed with Holden.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

The more news I hear, the less I believe a Camaro is coming in the future.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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i think the f-body will be back , but not on this platform...

still good news anyway you look at it.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ude-lose
i think the f-body will be back , but not on this platform...

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What makes you say that? And what platform did you have in mind?
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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something exclusive to the f-body and NOT made or engineered by the aussies.... its obvious people are that holden is coming up with the goods and not GM N/A.

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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If its RWD and made by GM (made in the US or not), I'm happy. If Holden already has the engineering done on RWD models, its only logical to use it as a blueprint for US spec RWD models.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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It seems almost anti-climatic seeing it in print after I've been following and posting this very same subject for almost the past year and a half.

None the less, it is great to have it finally announced publically, and see that the introduction year was dead on.

As for Camaro, I really don't understand the problem with Australia taking the lead on engineering on a chassis that may (or may not) end up under Camaro. It's RWD, it's likely to be assembled here, it's most certainly going to be designed & developed here, and it's not like GM is going to Ford or Afganistan to have it's chassis developed.

Afterall, Holden is a GM subsidary just like Delco and GM financial. It would be stupid & a waste of money to re-develop something that is already been developed just to say it was done in the US. Especially if it's going to be built and subcontracted here.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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wow--behind the 8 ball--as usaul GM.
Why is GM always the last to get in on a trend?
I can't think of the last time they were first or a leader in bringiong a unique product to market.

(the min SUV's started in 97 I think, CRV, RAV4--now 7 years later GM is bring a Chevy Equinox--fashionably late or what? And with that lame 3400 185hp V6---that sucks. Hey 3400 is good in a 2000 GAGT--but time to move forward. I'm surprised the 200hp 3500 V6 isn't in it.

On the otherhand, I have no problem WHERE GM desgns their vehicles---seems the Aussies are a lot more experinced at building and designing RWD vehicles anyways.

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by 305fan
wow--behind the 8 ball--as usaul GM.
Why is GM always the last to get in on a trend?
I can't think of the last time they were first or a leader in bringiong a unique product to market.
Suburban was out in 1935, Ford Excursion 2000
4 door Fullsize SUV 1995 , Ford 1997, Nissan 2004
3rd door on Chevy pickup 1996, Ford 1997
first truck with a midgate 2002, Ford and others MIA
Quadrasteer 2002, Ford and Dodge 2006??



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