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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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make up less than 5% of the total buying public
I would guess that it's less than 1%. No?
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Because outside of us performance oriented buyers who follow that stuff (whom... and this is not an exaggeration... make up less than 5% of the total buying public), it isn't an issue. If you look at family car buyers, horsepower and a 1 grand price difference simply isn't in the top or even top 10 considerations.
but the G8 is 10x nicer.....which i'm sure matters more.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Front wheel drive, for one.
do most buyers even know?
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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do most buyers even know?
A lot of people that live in the snow belt know that they need to be aware of such things, and "know" that RWD isn't as good in the snow (often true, but not always, depending on exactly where you need to drive, and varying from car to car).
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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why would anyone buy the 211hp impala over the only $1k more 256hp G8?
There are a lot more people that say "would anyone buy the 25mpg V6 G8 over the $1k less 29mpg Impala?"

More money for less MPG turns off a lot of buyers. Most people can't even tell you the HP of their engine.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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There are a lot more people that say "would anyone buy the 25mpg V6 G8 over the $1k less 29mpg Impala?"

More money for less MPG turns off a lot of buyers. Most people can't even tell you the HP of their engine.
cause people like driving nice cars....even more then mpg....
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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cause people like driving nice cars....even more then mpg....
Which is why the 2010-2013 Impalas will have deep deep discounts. G8 vs. 2010 Taurus is probably a better comparison.

Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
do most buyers even know?
In the North East people prefer FWD after decades of RWD + snow = propaganda. A lot of older people won't even consider RWD.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Wow those numbers really paint the story of how bad the whole auto market is and unfortunately how far Chevy has fallen year over year. In bad times it's the bread and butter brands that need to pick up the slack. GM just doesn't seem to be getting that help from Chevy.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Not in Canada, unfortunately. GM fell to third spot behind Chrysler and Ford (Chrysler regularly outsells Ford up here). It's the first time GM has lost the crown since 1950.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...TOS04/TPStory/
That's unbelievable! GM usually sell more cars in Canada than Ford and Chrysler combined.

Just goes to show that GM's most loyal of customers are uncertain about GM's immediate future.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
cause people like driving nice cars....even more then mpg....
How true that statement is.

That's why I can't understand the constant battering from the press on how GM is not into 'fuel efficient' product. Well, the car is an extension of one's personality... we're not all alike.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
OK.

Consider this.

Camary sales February only: 34,914

Total combined 2009 sales of Malibu+Impala: 35,695


If you aren't willing to make your bread and butter cars (the vehicles that pays the bills and keeps the lights on, let alone funds anything else) a priority, then you really don't belong in the business.

That's like purposely deciding to get by with producing substandard work at the office at a time management is looking to layoff someone there.
Of course I am sure the B-word has a lot to do with GM's sales. They are down 51% from last year.

The top 20 is especially confusing this time. Where the hell did the Wrangler and G6 come from? Also two of Chrysler's minivans are on there.
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Which is why the 2010-2013 Impalas will have deep deep discounts.
that i agree
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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GuionM quoted a 2008 Toyota article.

Camry sales in February 2009 were 20,634.

http://www.toyota.com/about/news/cor...3-1-sales.html

Most people consider the Malibu Chevrolet's Camry competitor.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Someone explain why the LNF isn't available in the Malibu. Ecotech fuel economy and more power than HFV6. Add the Stage II kit and you've got 300 hp/340 ftlb and 30+ mpg. Price it the same as the HFV6 package.... what's the downside (other than it's FWD, of course)? I could definitely see this replacing my wife's Impala in a few years.

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by routesixtysixer
Someone explain why the LNF isn't available in the Malibu.
or even the impala.



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