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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Wink Toyota does hybrids the right way

3.3L V6 with 408hp
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Is it just me or does the car in the second picture look completely like a toy? Either way, that's pretty cool.
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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It is a toy or at least a small scale model
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Toyota once again has bent the rules of performance, developing a powerful supercar that won't offend Mother Nature or her minions. Ironic, but the one company that would have no financial challenges building a car this daring, probably won't. Enthusiasts with socially conscious hearts can only hope.

Its cool and all, but they won't build it.. 31 mpg



Yet, currently in production, Vettes are getting almost 30 mpg on the highway, with 405 hp, yet nobody's raving about that.
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ken S
Its cool and all, but they won't build it.. 31 mpg



Yet, currently in production, Vettes are getting almost 30 mpg on the highway, with 405 hp, yet nobody's raving about that.
Assuming you don't drive it like you stole it, have a manual tranny and can count to six . I've see 30 on the freeway in my 99 Hardtop. Plus the vette is aerodynamic and lighweight. But yeah, the LSx is an amazing engine too.
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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If you take your thumb and cover up the back portion of the car, its pretty cool looking. Unfortunately, you wont be able to do that in person.
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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From the article-
If driven more moderately a single 7.5 liter (13.7 gallon) tank of gasoline should result in approximately 700 km (435 miles).
There's a math error here that I can't figure out. But, 31mpg isn't anything to brag about. The Lexus RX-330 gets that same basic hybrid setup this fall, and they're claiming at least that sort of mileage. Surely, a lightweight, aerodynamic sports car would do better.

I'm still waiting for this- http://www.supercars.net/cars/2002@$Acura@$DN-X%20Conceptg.html

EDIT- funky link. Cut and paste.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Chuck!
If you take your thumb and cover up the back portion of the car, its pretty cool looking. Unfortunately, you wont be able to do that in person.
True, true



On another note, this car reminds of the 05 Eclipse concept, V6+electric motor. Seems like a good idea, I wonder if anything will make it into production.
Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Found this:

Some more pics from Toyotas site

I think its a real concept car, not a toy as was mentioned.
Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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A C6 Vette will be 400HP+ and get 29mpg. Once they add VVT and DoD the Vette could probably do 31-32 mpg.
Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Todd80Z28
From the article-There's a math error here that I can't figure out....
The article says
If driven more moderately a single 7.5 liter (13.7 gallon) tank of gasoline should result in approximately 700 km (435 miles).
I noticed that something was strange right away. There are in fact about 3.8L per gallon. A 7.5L tank is not going to also be 13.7 gallons. That makes no sense whatsoever, as we all know liters are smaller than gallons. It also doesn't make sense that they got the units backwards. 7.5 gallons is not 13.7 liters.

7.5L = 1.98 gallons
13.7L = 3.6 gallons
7.5 gallons = 28.5L
13.7 gallons = 52.1L

EDIT: I went to Toyota's site and the car does in fact have a 13.7 gallon tank, which means that it was the liter number that they pulled out of somewhere. Anyway that does make 31.75 MPG which is not really ground shattering, unless it can do that in the city.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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unless it can do that in the city.
It probably is the city. I believe that's where hybrids get their best mileage.
Old Jun 29, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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It probably is the city. I believe that's where hybrids get their best mileage.
Depending on the hybrid...But yea, most of the time they do...
Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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A C6 Vette will be 400HP+ and get 29mpg. Once they add VVT and DoD the Vette could probably do 31-32 mpg.
DoD on a Vette to get 3mpg more? Vette owners have already shot down the DoD idea on the Corvette and that's why the C6 doesn't have it.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Thumbs down

Hybrids today are still a blatant waste of money. In fact the hybrid Escape tested by the Detroit News this week got mileage no better than its gas-powered variant
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