I was just wondering which one of these divisions/model lines are the coolest? If SS should be Chevrolets top performance designation how does it compare to the competition? Is Chevrolet doing a good job compared to the others? Is the SS designation really worthy of being thought of as a performance package? You guys be the judge.

HSV:
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...e/homepage.jsp

GPX: (please scroll to the middle of page)
http://www.pontiac.com/concept/index...&pagename=home

SVT:
http://www.svt.ford.com/flash/index.html

SS:
http://www.chevrolet.com/ss/ss_flash.htm


I know some of these cars are not available here and some of them are concepts. In my poll I will also include V Series (CTS-V) and PVO (SRT-4/Viper/SRT-10)

 

I voted for HSV, b/c I think they are the coolest today but within the next 5 years V-series will blow them all out of the water.

400 HP CTS
500HP+ V12 Escalade
450HP+ XLR
500HP STS

 

The thing that really pisses me off is that Holden is a GM division, and they have all the cool stuff, and we are stuck with cars like the Impala SS. To add insult to injury they are using Chevy V8's in all their performance cars.

 

Well, lets go down the line. It's not PVO because they really don't have anything yet and the same goes for GPX. SVT..............nah. SS..............no because they really don't have anything great yet, not to mention the fact that there is not even an SS Camaro. So that leaves HSV and V series. I voted for the V series because I love the new Caddys and the CTSv is just great, plus I know there will be other great V series comming. There is definatly a good argument for HSV because they actually have a good bit of cars out................but I still had to go with the V series.

 

If it wasn't for PVO there wouldn't be an SRT-4, Viper and future SRT-10. The Boneville GPX is comming out soon. I think the V-series is awsome. Are we going to see this much detail being put into the SS branded cars?

 

Well, I thought about the SRT-4 and that wasn't enough. There would be a Viper without PVO or not and the SRT-10, we will have to see. I know the Bonneville will be out very soon and it looks very promising too but it is not out yet or the finalized specs on the car. Also, nothing has been really stated about future vehicles for the GXP line after that(It is rumored to be the Grand Prix next but there is still little to no info on that). I still have really high hopes for the SS brand. I don't think it will be ignored and I believe it will be really good. I have to be patient, so I will give it a few years and reasses my opinion then.

 

The Aussies are kicking our ***!

 

After going down to Australia and actually seeing some of those HSV cars (that Maloo is cool), I'd have to say that HSV is tops on my list.

 

I voted SVT. They have a cool car in every niche from 4 banger to truck and theyre actually affordable. They make cool sports cars for the masses.

This is what I think Chevy is attempting to do with the SS badge, but IMO theyre sucking at it so far.

 

I really have high hopes for the SS brand but if you look at what is available now it isn't the best. Example the Impala SS costs just as much as a Grand Prix comp G. Why doesn't the SS have the same motor, brakes, ect? Why is this considered an SS? The SS doesn't have all the goodies that are readily available. I know that the GP is supposed to be a little more upscale than the Impi but they cost the same. So whats up with that?

 

I went with SVT.

For one thing...I own one. They're limited production high performance vehicles, AIMED DIRECTLY AT THE ENTHUSIAST, that are sold for a fair price in order to create excitement for the Ford brand. What a great deal for the enthusiast!

Every aspect of the vehicles which carry the SVT badge have been re-engineered for performance. Suspension, interior, brakes drivetrain, cosmetics.....the whole shebang! My SVT Contour includes larger HD Euro-spec brakes, extrude honed intake, specific exhaust, hotter cams, Cosworth wheels, specific light weight flywheel, heavy duty clutch, close ratio transaxle with steeper gears, specific gauges ....and on and on and on. In other words...it's "special"...and I like that.

V-series is awesome..but not in my price range.

SS is a merchadising label...with the minimum amount of performance required to sell high content vehicles.

HSV, is very cool but not available here.

GXP...nothing yet.

PVO...it's getting there.

 

That sums it up pretty well.

 

One problem I have with SVT is the fact that they are limited production. (Not sure why others here relish this) What's so great about that? Just means there are less of them around if you want one. I think everyone will pretty much agree that Z06 is a great car... it certainly is not limited in production!

The other thing I do not like about SVT is that only certain Ford dealers are SVT licensed.... The closest one to me is 50+ miles away. That tells me Ford doesn't want to sell SVT products to anyone in my neck of the woods... we must not be worth it, I guess. :blah:

 

limited production = jacked up prices and harder to get the exact car you want

The Cobra R might have well just been a concept car since you will never see one on the street.

 

I like all of them, but i went with SVT. They've got performance cars starting with the 18k SVT Focus all the way upto the super-exotic GT. The GT may not have an SVT badge, but it was SVT engineered.

They've got or will have:
*rumored upcoming 200+ Turbo focus, and current 170hp focus
*400-500hp Cobra (will have supercooler with additional 50-60hp)
*500hp Lightning (supercooler with additional 50-60hp)
*500+hp GT (supercooler with additional 50-60hp)
*93/94/00 Cobra R, and i'm sure a 500+hp version isn't too far away. I'm sure there are plans for another R down the line.
*And rumors of SVT expanding to other Ford vehicles

PVO, V-series, nor SS have that kind of lineup. HSV is only Aussi specific, V-series are spendy with the cheapest being a 53k CTS-V, SS really hasn't proved to be that big of an improvement over stock. PVO has really impressed me though with the SRT-4.

My rating:
1. SVT (Diverse lineup with BIG emphasis on performance and value)
2. PVO ( mainly due to the amazing SRT-4 and it's value)
3. V-series (only because i can't afford it and me not being a big fan of the new edge styling)
4. GPX (FWD, 6 banger, questionable styling)
5. SS (Good cars but no real improvement over z28 or Sierra C3)
6. HSV (Aussi only so this shouldn't even be listed)