i have a few comments though. the rear appears to be rounded as opposed to sharp edges. i mentioned before why they cammoed the back, and the rear tail light patters. also the front fog lights are more rectangular than on the c6. but why? the overal curve on the back of the z06 pic looks exagerated also.
and the front caliper on the c6
http://www.iunknown.com/Images/C6-Corvette.jpg
looks to be about 1.5 inches turned downwards more than on the z06 pic
the boat shop pics
http://www.stupidfastboats.com/dsc00415.jpg
show the hood being pointed at the front and not flat, it also has fog lights that aren't very rectangular.
just some observations

 

GM is taking a negative posture towards ALL websites after the 2005 GTO/SSR fiasco, Funny thing is they did not show up on my sites untill a week after they had been posted here, LS2GTO.com and other sites. I posted them assuming it was fine since they had been all over the net a week, and GM called me the next Monday asking me where I got the info and why I was breaking embargoes. I pointed them to about 5 sites (mostly larger than mine) where the info had been up for a week. They were like WTF and flipped out. That info cost them millions of dollars, but it was thier own mistake for not properly password protecting sections of thier media site they do not want the public to have access too. Either way, they took no action against us, because they realized we did not break the embargo, and it is hard to stop the spread of that kind of info unless you go after the source.

That being said, going back to when the C6 Pictures were all over the net before the embargo date, I was told by GM that once something like these pictures was posted on the internet, they know it it is hard to stop the spread of it unless you go after the source. Only rule was that we had to hotlink to the offending site...we could store the pictures on our servers. That way they could find the original source and shut them down..removing the pictures from the other sites too.

I was not contacted over these pictures (and I have been in my office all day), but I did remove the pictures once it came out they were embargoed.

Now as for what GM can do in a situation like this.....not a whole lot. If it is a news site, they can take away advance news access...but since they have done that for most websites already (since we can publish instantly), it is a empty threat.

Technically GM owns the picture and the copyrights to is, however since they have no watermarks or notices on them, no one knows where they came from. This is why many people thought it was a photoshop and knew if it was real. When GM does not clearly mark thier copyrights and material, it is impossible to know what is a nice photoshop, and what is actually embargoed. Muddying things farther is that somtimes automakers release shots like the Z06 one, but don't claim responibility to kind of get feelers. Ford did this with 05 Mustang Concept pictures two years ago.

That being the case, GM has no course of action but to step forward and say "These are our pics, take them down or else". At this point if the site refuses, they become open to legal action for copyright infringment or what not. However, as long as they cooperate, there is really no legal recourse (again because the images were not clearly marked as copyrighted/embaroged from the start). It is really sad they can't do that one simple thing.

I know people would be have you believe worse could happen, but I would love to see someone show me an actual case where GM has taken legal action over something like an embargoed picture.

 

GM hasn't contacted the person they came from (it was a non-fody site), so maybe they should pay attention to their enthusiasts a bit better. do they really think we aren't interested in the z06? cause like you said, they didn't contact you untill it was already on other sites for a week (im guessing you are talking about the original c6 photos). do they really underestimate their fan base that much?
there is one spy shot in particular that i can't find anymore. it showed exactly the same thing this pic did. do you know where i can find it? it was from this set of pics
http://www.gminsidenews.com/Z06_spyshot.jpg

 

They contacted us a week after the fact on the 05 SSR/GTO info leak. They didn't realize the info was out there until they saw it on my site..even though it had be here and other sites for a week. I dunno why they did not notice on the other sites, but they were shocked when I told them.

I think they need to take a page from VW's books and embraces the web. VW works very well with VW Votex and has even offered members opportunities to buy special eddition cars before the public.

 

vw does make some nice cars, they have that right stance that many manufacturers stray away from.
its kinda sad to think red is this site's only connection to GM (from the 5th gen camaro perspective) and even he is limited on what he can do. someone needs to steal lutz laptop and make cz28.com his startup page.

 

I wouldn't jump on digitalcorvettes.com too much. I am sure that they thought it was a photo shop pic (which I still kind of think). As soon as they found out the pictures were embargoed they took them down.

 

For Autoshows, early release pictures have safeguards in place to prevent them from being copied or e-mailed off their internet sites.

Isn't this the same for embargoed pictures available on the internet?

 

Nah Guy, once you have access to the advanced media sites, you can download, copy, paste images, etc

That being said, my biggest problem lies with people playing the "Ummmm, jeeze GM I didn't know they were your photo's." That's what gets people in trouble. That's what revokes media access for EVERY web-site on the internet.

Branden, here's a word of advice. Instead of playing the "dumb role" and allowing the images to be posted, why not take the pro-active role and nip it in the butt as soon as something like this comes up? I know why, because the extra "bump" appears to be worth it to you. Which is why your web site (and some others, don't know which yet) have made it impossible for other web sites to get media access.

****ty world we live in out there when one person can ruin it for everybody.

 

Well said!

 

Nice post.

I can understand not being able to track down and/or "patrol" every single thread on any given website... but there is a line crossed when a website posts a big link to the thread on their homepage , and then throws their arms up in the air and says "I didn't do anything wrong!"

Maybe that website didn't directly host the picture, but they certainly are advocating it by becoming personally involved and pushing more traffic to their thread and the embargoed photo....... especially when the administrator of a site has ranted time and again about how the people doing this very thing are bad, etc etc... then they basically want to piggy back off those "bad" people for their own benifit... then say that much is OK.

I guess shoplifting is bad, but knowingly driving the shoplifter to the store is OK, right?

 

Funny thing is that I never saw any copyright items on these pictures….
I think it’s stupid for GM to make a big deal about this.
What about all the spy photos I see in motor-trend all the time etc. I don’t see these magazines getting letters about that.

 

sorry if i offended anyone by posting the pictures... i just thought maybe ppl who hadn't seen the pictures wanted to know what everyone was talking about.

 

i don't see that you offended anyone don't worry about it
It’s just a picture of car !!!

 

Haha...those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Your site was one of the first to have the 05 GTO/SSR info last summer. Matter of fact it was your site and a few others when I sent GM links to when they wondered what I meant by when said the info had been on other sites for a week. Since GM had everyone take anything involving that down, seems there is no trace of any evidnce now.


As for ruining it for others, I do not see how that is the case. GM is right, we can publish in instantly...why do we need it months in advance? Also, whining on you website like a jilted schoolgirl does nothing to make your case look better

If anything it has put GM in a worse situation because before they could hold taking early news access way from us. Now that they don't give us access, whats the point of being the embargo patrol? I wanna someone to show me a case where an automaker has sued an enthusiast website over embargoed information. Or hell, any industry that has sued a publication over embargied info. It is copyrighted info...they can ask you to remove it. If you don't then they might remotly have a case.

Either way, Don't stand in a pile of **** and say you smell like roses.

 

Again, read my earlier post. After it was brought up to GM how the C6 pics were all over the placebefore the embargoe, they said we are allowed to hotlink. That way when/if the person who broke the embargo is shut down, everyone is. Also, my websites main page newsticker is automated...the tem most recent threads show on the main page.

Not so hard to understand is it?