Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
The Hemi is a nice motor, the new performance 6.1 Hemi will be a nice motor...but I think even the people on this site get mesmorized by the DCX marketing machine (or maybe just because it's something NOT made by GM, and subtle GM bashing has become the "in" thing). The fair thing to do will be to compare the 6.1 Hemi to the LS7 (whatever it displaces), and I have full confidence in GM Powertrain's ability to put that semi-Hemi back on the trailer.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
The Hemi has more potential compared to what? I hope you don't mean the LSx series or Ford's modular program. Last I heard the tuners still can't even crack the Hemi's PCM code making serious mods next to impossible. Thanks Mercedes!
And I am predicting that if DCX doesn't open up and support the aftermarket by releasing their code, they will pay dearly. Most of the folks who would pay extra for the top "semi-hemi" are ones that want to drop more cash on customization. Without it, they'll soon move elsewhere.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
The fair thing to do will be to compare the 6.1 Hemi to the LS7 (whatever it displaces), and I have full confidence in GM Powertrain's ability to put that semi-Hemi back on the trailer. 
This is really going to get interesting! GM and DCX will be worthy adversaries.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z284ever
I think the 6.1 Hemi will be compared to the LS2 and it's off-shoots. The LS7 will end up being compared to the current...and future DCX V10.
Either way the motors in this price range are so exotic, so limited, you and I probably won't have to worry too much about A) Purchasing one and B) encountering one.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Actually if we're going to go "very best of what we got to very best of what you've got" I'd compare this rumored upcoming Hemi V10 to whatever will go in the Blue Devil Vette if produced of course (twin turbo LS7???)
Either way the motors in this price range are so exotic, so limited, you and I probably won't have to worry too much about A) Purchasing one and B) encountering one.
Either way the motors in this price range are so exotic, so limited, you and I probably won't have to worry too much about A) Purchasing one and B) encountering one.

The LS7 will be far more exotic than the 6.1, with it's one off bore/stroke ratio and possibly dry sump oiling system.....among other things.
It will also put out lots more power than the 6.1 Hemi.....and of course be more expensive to manufacture. As we know, it will be hand built in limited quantities at the Wixom performance center.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z284ever
I don't know about that. The 6.1 Hemi will be attainable...even to regular folk. It will be to DCX, what LS2 is to GM. DCX cars with the 6.1 will be priced in the mid 30's. You won't find an LS7 car for under 60K.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Z284ever
This is really going to get interesting! GM and DCX will be worthy adversaries.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
It seems the aftermarket is realling diggging the new Hemi. Rip off artist hennessy has a turbo kit for the 300c and magnums.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
It seems the aftermarket is realling diggging the new Hemi. Rip off artist hennessy has a turbo kit for the 300c and magnums.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
I think everyone here knows that the LSx and Ford mod motors are better bcuz you can make more power out of them while being very tame. What no one has said is that it isn't what potential is in the motor that sells cars, it is what the car comes with. With the 300 cars there is nothing even comparable in the same class and with the new SRT8, there isn't anything left except a Cadillac for another 15k or so. Whether the LSx , Mod, or HEMI motors have more potential has yet to be seen, until someone cracks the HEMI code.
Right now, DC is sitting pretty good. They have the most power V8 available. While some say that the LS7 and Blue Devil engines will be more powerful, we still don't know much about the rumored HEMI 10 and the NEW 426 HEMI(Whats a famous auto show?).
Right now, DC is sitting pretty good. They have the most power V8 available. While some say that the LS7 and Blue Devil engines will be more powerful, we still don't know much about the rumored HEMI 10 and the NEW 426 HEMI(Whats a famous auto show?).
Last edited by mastrdrver; Aug 16, 2004 at 01:08 AM.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Big Als Z
too bad no one can crack the DCX computer.
It seems they have. In the installed turbo kit price it lists dyno tuning. And again people had a hard time getting the ls1s tuned for about 3 years after the motor hit the streets.
Re: Since GM seems to follow with a twist.....
Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
The hemi is a newer ground up motor that has more potenial. Just like the LS1 does over the Lt1. The Ls2 is just a upgraded version of the current Gen III motors.

Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
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