http://www.thecarconnection.com/Indu...175.A8757.html

 

But in typical GM product development timelines, we'll see GM competing by 2020. :rolleye:

 

]"If the U.S. market booms, if gas prices go down, if sales of large SUVs come back, our return to profitability will be quicker. If the U.S. enters a downturn or gas prices go much higher and there are other outside factors that we have to react to, it's going to be a tougher task," Wagoner said.[/I]

If sales of big SUV's come back?!?!?!?! OMG.

If frogs had wings... they wouldn't bump their @ss.
If I had 5 good numbers...
If... If... If...

I don't know whether to scream about wanting big SUV's to sell better, or NOT wanting to commit to expediting newer products...

 

What's a 'brickbat'?

It's been along time since something from GM (besides the Corvette) really strained my neck (there have been some head turners for sure, but nothing that really made me go 'wow'), and I can't recall the last model to start a design or styling revolution or trend.

 

And therein lies the problem! "Foolproof" marketing plans aside, the only thing that will save GM is that "Gotta have" product that Maximum Bob crowed about when he took the position at GM.

General Motors has not hit a home run with any of their vehicles since the 1997 Corvette...and even that was a car that mere mortals could not afford. Sure they've had some success stories (Impala, new Cobalt, the GMT-800's were fine trucks) but they have done nothing like the LX/Mustang, you know, the cars that set the automotive world ablaze. Some hope comes from the Kappa cars to get the ball rolling in that area, but they will be low volume roadsters and they keep getting pushed back.

 

Excellent points.

 

I think the Equinox is as close to "gotta have" as there is in that segment.

 

Dont forget the CTS and Caddy. Its been a turnaround brand.

Anyway atleast they are starting to get it.

 

Yeah, I think the Equinox is excellent. Replace that 3.4L with something smoother and a bit more powerful and you'd really have something great! But what makes me want a G6 over an Accord right now? Perhaps when the coupe and retractible hardtop models come out we can make a better case for the G6. But as it stands right now, the G6 driving experience can't even compare to a similar Honda, and that's just not right. Whatever happened to plans of an AWD turbo G6 GXP? The one we're getting in production form is pretty milktoast in comparison. As far as upcoming vehicles

--I love Solstice and Sky. Again, problem is they're low volume and the timetable keeps getting moved back. It's nice to see they're worried about quality, but they needed Solstice to be on the road this summer.

--Is the HHR going to make anyone's pulse pound? Nice little utility vehicle, 5 years late to the "PT party", "been-there-done-that" styling.

--GMT 900's should be the best in the business. GM is putting all their profitibility eggs in this basket, they BETTER be!!!

What else is there that we can plainly see is coming from GM? If we can't obviously see it now, it must be a few years off. I'm afraid the "gotta have" product that is supposed to be coming may be too late.

 

Yup, Caddy's turnaround has been sensational. Still I wonder how much it has meant to GM's bottom line. Again, the "gotta have" products like Cadillacs and Corvettes end up costing you at least $40,000. Low volume gotta-have's are nice but they aren't going to save you.

 

Yeah, Equinox is nice. I've even heard rumors somewhere of starting the redesign of the Equinox??? If this is true are we actually seeing good model change timetables?

 

Formula, while I do agree that the Equinox is a good product, I don't really think that it is a "gotta have" product.

It is one of the better looking compact Utes (remembering that looks are subjective). It offers a good price for what you get. However, short of a couple of unique features, it really doesn't offer anything more than what a handful of other compact Utes offer.

It is, in my opinion, one of Chevrolets better products.

 

The Vette is close to a "gotta have", but in my opinion, if a Vette ever needed hidden headlights, it's the C6.

There are no "gotta haves" in the high volume segments.

 

The equinox is nice till you actually go and sit in it ( I did this morning).... man does it ever look like a rental. WOW is all I can say. And whats up with that back seat that you can move forward so that it is totally unusable or slide back to about where it should be?

I mean I tried moving the back seat while standing outside but coudnt until I was sitting on it. Useless unless someone could explain it to me?

It was very easy to get in and out of the back seats though.

All and all the interior is way to plasticy... and why would I buy one of those when you can get a vue for the same price but with the more powerfull\refined\ honda powertrain?

The seat texture is horrible to!

I did like the stearing wheel though.

 

Only if we're lucky.