Sept 09 Sales
10-02-2009, 08:31 AM
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And in fairness the new SRX is much cheaper ($7000?) and is going after a slightly different group than the old SRX. According to edmunds the new one starts at $33K and the old at $40K.
10-02-2009, 09:42 AM
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WOW...didn't notice how big of an increase there was! 2,866 compared to 848 last year.
I wonder how much the name changes have hurt GM?
Ex.
Trailblazer in 08 sold 8,773
Traverse in 09 sold 6,863
difference (1,910)
Envoy 08 sold 3,394
Terrain 09 sold 1,334
difference (2,260)
Granted the Terrain has just come out....it will be interesting to watch.
The change from Trailblazer to Traverse seems to have had an effect. Is there a difference in size between these 2? Or was it basically a name change when the new vehicle came out?
I wonder how much the name changes have hurt GM?
Ex.
Trailblazer in 08 sold 8,773
Traverse in 09 sold 6,863
difference (1,910)
Envoy 08 sold 3,394
Terrain 09 sold 1,334
difference (2,260)
Granted the Terrain has just come out....it will be interesting to watch.
The change from Trailblazer to Traverse seems to have had an effect. Is there a difference in size between these 2? Or was it basically a name change when the new vehicle came out?
10-02-2009, 09:49 AM
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I don't doubt that Camaro is biting into Mustang sales, but I think pent up demand is also spiking Camaro sales. We'll have to wait a while until supply and demand catches up to get a more accurate picture of how the competition is going.
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10-02-2009, 09:59 AM
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I would bet they are in fact influencing the enthusiasts that I was referencing when saying "the enthusiasts are waiting." Go visit any Mustang board and there are a whole bunch of people delaying purchases until the 2011 Mustangs.
I don't doubt that Camaro is biting into Mustang sales, but I think pent up demand is also spiking Camaro sales. We'll have to wait a while until supply and demand catches up to get a more accurate picture of how the competition is going.
10-02-2009, 10:14 AM
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Newbie: "Hi, I'm new, I just bought a 2010 Mustang"
Veteran: "Why did you do that? You couldn't wait for the 2011?"
10-02-2009, 10:18 AM
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BTW, on the Camaro numbers, Chevy is now expecting 2010 sales volume to reach 80,000. Based on that projection, 50% of 2010 Camaro volume has already been sold.
10-02-2009, 11:21 AM
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10-02-2009, 11:27 AM
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So no one bought a 2009 Mustang because they were waiting for a 2010. now no one is buying a 2010 because they are waiting for a 2011. Maybe Ford should do nothing for 2012 and let the sales catch up. 2012 is already rumored to be the year they get Ecoboost V6 and a twin turbo 5.0L.
probably until late June 2010.
2012 is already rumored to be the year they get Ecoboost V6 and a twin turbo 5.0L.probably until late June 2010.
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10-02-2009, 01:15 PM
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So no one bought a 2009 Mustang because they were waiting for a 2010. now no one is buying a 2010 because they are waiting for a 2011. Maybe Ford should do nothing for 2012 and let the sales catch up. 2012 is already rumored to be the year they get Ecoboost V6 and a twin turbo 5.0L.
2012 is already rumored to be the year they get Ecoboost V6 and a twin turbo 5.0L.The rumored turbo engines if they come to fruition are likely to be in GT350 and GT500 guise, not affordable mass market models.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that the Camaro is doing well and I hope that the ponies keep each other on their toes, but there's real reason to wait for the 2011 for Mustang intenders. Nobody held out for an LS1 Camaro over an LT1?
10-02-2009, 01:16 PM
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Interesting that the G6 is still in the top 20. I think we will continue to see "GM sales drop 45%" headlines for at least another year untill the sales from cancelled brands flush out and stop dragging it down. We have a full line GM dealer here, and all their new Pontiac's are already sold.
10-02-2009, 02:33 PM
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I would think so....Charlie said Hyundai is claiming otherwise..
Sept 08 they sold 1,029 Genesis (I don't think the Coupe was out yet so this would be all sedan....)
Sept 08 they sold 677 Tiburons
Total those together you get 1,706 sold Sept 08
Sept 09 they sold 1,665 combined....thats off 41 cars....but I would say the coupes have a higher avg selling price than the Tiburon (leads to higher profit)...not to mention the sharing of parts with the sedan. While it's not the success we would come to expect being GM fans I can see Hyundai calling it one...
Sept 08 they sold 1,029 Genesis (I don't think the Coupe was out yet so this would be all sedan....)
Sept 08 they sold 677 Tiburons
Total those together you get 1,706 sold Sept 08
Sept 09 they sold 1,665 combined....thats off 41 cars....but I would say the coupes have a higher avg selling price than the Tiburon (leads to higher profit)...not to mention the sharing of parts with the sedan. While it's not the success we would come to expect being GM fans I can see Hyundai calling it one...
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10-02-2009, 04:33 PM
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Interesting that the G6 is still in the top 20. I think we will continue to see "GM sales drop 45%" headlines for at least another year untill the sales from cancelled brands flush out and stop dragging it down. We have a full line GM dealer here, and all their new Pontiac's are already sold.
I am betting that the numbers will continue to look bad for GM till the gov't sells its shares and GM is a standalone company again.
10-02-2009, 09:26 PM
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10-02-2009, 09:46 PM
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Camaros are becoming a regular sight here, I see at least 2 per day.
One bright yellow one / black stripes, in particular, on St.Rt.35 here on a pedastool, gets a lot of head turning or "rubber-necking"! ..
Mustang guys here are already saying how the new Camaro's going to get smoked by the 2011 Mustang...kinda anoying
One bright yellow one / black stripes, in particular, on St.Rt.35 here on a pedastool, gets a lot of head turning or "rubber-necking"! ..
Mustang guys here are already saying how the new Camaro's going to get smoked by the 2011 Mustang...kinda anoying
