saw my first xB on the road today
02-12-2004, 09:49 AM
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I saw my first Scion xb yesterday also. Seeing it in person did not
change my mind about it's looks. It is still UGLY! IMHO, the Honda
Element and the Scion xb are uglier than the Aztec. It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
change my mind about it's looks. It is still UGLY! IMHO, the Honda
Element and the Scion xb are uglier than the Aztec. It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
02-12-2004, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by 3TAS4ME
It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
02-12-2004, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by 3TAS4ME
I saw my first Scion xb yesterday also. Seeing it in person did not
change my mind about it's looks. It is still UGLY! IMHO, the Honda
Element and the Scion xb are uglier than the Aztec. It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
I saw my first Scion xb yesterday also. Seeing it in person did not
change my mind about it's looks. It is still UGLY! IMHO, the Honda
Element and the Scion xb are uglier than the Aztec. It irritates me
how the automotive journalists all made a big deal about how ugly the Aztec was, but I have yet to read anything the same about the Element and xb. Typical import bias again.
02-12-2004, 11:37 AM
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heh.. Scion cracks us up.... We're here stuck with this 1997 Geo Tracker 4 door We're always keeping an eye out for something to replace it with.. If only it wasn't so dang reliable and practical, then we would have good excuse!
Now, I can't imagine that people this is hot.. Repackaged with some extra bells and whistles, and some fancy marketing....... Perhaps Geo/Isuzu was just 10 years ahead of its time? lol
Now, I can't imagine that people this is hot.. Repackaged with some extra bells and whistles, and some fancy marketing....... Perhaps Geo/Isuzu was just 10 years ahead of its time? lol
02-12-2004, 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by guionM
You see them all over the place in LA. Odd thing is it seems that it's mainly middle aged people buying them.
You see them all over the place in LA. Odd thing is it seems that it's mainly middle aged people buying them.
Wasn't the Element also geared towards the Gen X? I've yet to anybody younger than ~40 to drive one. And I don't think they were just on a ride in their son's/daughter's car...
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02-12-2004, 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by R377
I don't think that was unexpected. As the old saying goes, "you can sell a young man's car to an old man, but not an old man's car to a young man." By pretending to target the hip Gen-Xers, Toyota and Honda sell boatloads of Scions and Elements to the people with real cash who want to pretend they're young and hip: yuppies.
I don't think that was unexpected. As the old saying goes, "you can sell a young man's car to an old man, but not an old man's car to a young man." By pretending to target the hip Gen-Xers, Toyota and Honda sell boatloads of Scions and Elements to the people with real cash who want to pretend they're young and hip: yuppies.
02-12-2004, 01:44 PM
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I just saw one at the dealer today.
A year ago I felt that Scion was an illconcieved notion....now I've changed my mind.
The xB is no beauty queen in my eyes....but you get an awful lot for your money (about $13 grand)....and you can't deny that it's different. They will also get massive support from Toyota's TRD division. The one I saw had the TRD 5" lowering kit and 18" wheels.
Like I said, I've done a 180* turn on Scion....I think they'll be very successful.
A year ago I felt that Scion was an illconcieved notion....now I've changed my mind.
The xB is no beauty queen in my eyes....but you get an awful lot for your money (about $13 grand)....and you can't deny that it's different. They will also get massive support from Toyota's TRD division. The one I saw had the TRD 5" lowering kit and 18" wheels.
Like I said, I've done a 180* turn on Scion....I think they'll be very successful.
02-13-2004, 09:47 AM
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What cracks me up is that while they are pushing the personalization issue their magazine ads (have you seen those, with the two twins and how they customized their Scions to be different?) they have a disclaimer along the lines of "Modifying your vehicle may be dangerous and may void your warranty...blah."
02-13-2004, 10:47 AM
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Yeah, I understand the strategy, but the ad has non-TRD parts. If modification in the means it is shown in the ad may make your car not street legal or void the warranty as they say, it would seem to make a better point to show "Look at all you can do with TRD parts and accessories" or something.
02-14-2004, 12:37 PM
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the xb is an odd vehicle, it seems so much bigger in pictures. I'm not a huge guy, about 6'2, but i stood next to the little thing, and the roofline barely came to my chin, and it looked about 4 feet wide, but looking inside, it looked pretty big. i suppose its not bad getting a brand new car for that little cash, but 1) it looks like a box with wheels, and 2) ITS TINY!
also stopped and looked at an xa, looks like a 4 door mini, with less room in the hatch. actually kind of attractive in a mini-matrix lovechild sort of way
also stopped and looked at an xa, looks like a 4 door mini, with less room in the hatch. actually kind of attractive in a mini-matrix lovechild sort of way
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