if you were quoting me, i didn't make a typo. and i said it was sex not because of the scoops, but everything else that looked good on it, like the recessed grill, the rear bumper/dual exhausts. and just to clarify, I liked it before the restyle. now that I see that they haven't effed it up and it actually looks even better, I like it even more. if it had stayed the same for another year, i wouldn't have been disappointed. just one case where GM actually surprised me by doing a good job when I wasn't expecting it.

 

I believe production of the '05 Monaro and GTO starts the first week of September...

 

So when would they actually be on the streets?

 

I'd say just in time for Christmas (400HP and snow..hmmm)

 

Hmmm. 04 sales better pick up!

 

Someone bring the press release to a Pontiac dealer and tell them that its time to release the death grip on the price please. I hope that GM has learned from the price gouging and gives thoes dealershiops the new 05's last

 

EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!!

 

I agree. But you stated earlier that Ford had no control over what their dealers do.....

...so what makes GM any different in this regard? Do they have some sort of control over their dealerships that Ford does not?

 

why can't they have control??? yank their rights to be a dealer! quit sending them cars all together!

 

well, yes but GM is better then Ford so thats how....








what I mean is that GM can control things by not allowing certain dealers to get what is a limited run car, and only give it to a few dealerships, to where the mass-produced Mustang will be a lot harder to just sell from just a handfull of dealerships then the 18k unit GTO.
Ford could try, but I would belive its a lot harder then it would be to do the same for the GTO. Pick a few dealerships per state and give them the GTO's. Much like there are certain SVT dealers(I belive), have only a certain dealers that can deal with teh GTO as well as future limited run cars like the Solstice and GXP models. I think this will solve the problem with giving each dealership its X amount of cars, it only gives the certain dealers the privilage to sell and work on Pontiacs performance cars. This will also give Pontiac that image of having these dealerships to offer certain things for performance of the vehicle. Just an idea that I wish GM would adapt to help solve problems like this.

 

LISTEN
that is an old car. about 1-2 years ago when we were wondering what the gto was gonna look like (but already saw the holden version) there was a pic on the net. it was of a holden just like that one with the exact same hood, except the hood had some pin-stripping. somebody please pull this pic out

 

Most of the pics showcase the new front end of the car, which I'll admit does look pretty good. However, once people start seeing these cars on the road, they will realize it's the same old boring-shaped car, except now it has a cool looking front fascia. I seen a GTO on the road the other day, and thought it had a side profile very similar to the Dodge Stratus, until I realized the Stratus looks better.