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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
What do you think the average '02 LS1 Fbod runs vs the average Mach1? I say they're dead even around 13.3@105

Killer is too strong. The 4V 4.6 equalized the stang with the LS1 Fbods. I think 3V will propel the '05 stang past LS1 Fbod performance based off the 13.6 the auto ran.

And I KNOW with a reasonable enough amount of certainty that a V8 tuned for 87 octane has 25-35hp left in it due to timing alone. And combined with the reports of tuners posting their results it's a fair certainty.
Actually, 02' F-bodies ran about 107-108 and were the quickest of the breed. I wouldn't say that the 4v 4.6 equalled the LS1 in any way since the 02's dynoed about 310-320 no problem and the 4.6 about 270-280 at best. The Mustang benefited from a little less weight and better gearing but it still wasn't faster, but yes, close. If you are talking about 98' LS1 cars, then you could say they were equal.
I seriously doubt the 05' will be at about 107 mph for LS1 equivilant performance.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
Why do you gotta wait till then? Has any LS1 AUTO (this side of a vette) ever run a 13.6 in the quarter in any of the big 3 rags?

I sure don't remember any.

If you're in a stock LS1 Fbod and you don't wanna get embarrassed by a chick in a new auto stang you better be shifting at your best.
This is so retarded. Auto GTs did not have consistant 13.6 runs. They had consistent times of low 14's/high 13's and managed that single13.6 time with a 2000rpm brake stand launch. Read the article.

No "chick in a GT" is going to be embarrassing any LS1 drivers on the street.

BTW: C&D ran a 0-60 in 4.9 and a 1/4 mile in 13.5 @ 107 in a 99' SS A4 I believe.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by Schismblade
This is so retarded. Auto GTs did not have consistant 13.6 runs. They had consistent times of low 14's/high 13's and managed that single13.6 time with a 2000rpm brake stand launch. Read the article.

No "chick in a GT" is going to be embarrassing any LS1 drivers on the street.

BTW: C&D ran a 0-60 in 4.9 and a 1/4 mile in 13.5 @ 107 in a 99' SS A4 I believe.
We're talking about the 2005 Mustang GT w/auto incase you didn't read the whole thread.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

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We're talking about the 2005 Mustang GT w/auto incase you didn't read the whole thread.
??? I know....what's your point?
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by ZZtop
Results on what car. They arent out and woulnt be out until Jan.
You didn't read the misprint title of this thread? MT runs a 13.8@99.

It was actually 13.6@100(99.9) in a production auto '05 GT.



Originally Posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
What's a fair certainty? That the 05 GT will be able to beat an LS1 F-body?
If you get to reflash the 05 GT then you have to allow for the LS1 F-bod to be reflashed as well. That will put the LS1 back on top. Not to mention, how many people (Joe Q. Public) are going to have their cars reflashed?

Your logic makes you look stupid. Either compare both cars bone stock or you are just moving the goal posts while you're playing.
No. Your obvious illiteracy and inability to follow a series of responses to 3 different points makes you look stupid.

Follow SLOWLY...
1) The '03/'04 Mach1s are as fast as the '01/'02 LS1 Fbods
2) I said a 3V '05 GT looks like it will outrun the LS1 Fbods(nothing mentioned about mods)
3) And then it STILL has 25-35hp left in it from just a tune.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Actually, 02' F-bodies ran about 107-108 and were the quickest of the breed. I wouldn't say that the 4v 4.6 equalled the LS1 in any way since the 02's dynoed about 310-320 no problem and the 4.6 about 270-280 at best. The Mustang benefited from a little less weight and better gearing but it still wasn't faster, but yes, close. If you are talking about 98' LS1 cars, then you could say they were equal.
I seriously doubt the 05' will be at about 107 mph for LS1 equivilant performance.

Yeah right bro. I can find you a Mach1 running 107-108 for every LS1 that ever did. They're both legit 13.3@105 cars. When did I EVER say the Mach1 was faster than the Fbods? They're EQUAL. You wanna pull out factory freaks running 108 well Ford's got'em too.

I have already destroyed the peak hp myth. Check out a Mach1 dyno some time. It makes big power out to 6600. AREA UNDER CURVE.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

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This is so retarded. Auto GTs did not have consistant 13.6 runs. They had consistent times of low 14's/high 13's and managed that single13.6 time with a 2000rpm brake stand launch. Read the article.

No "chick in a GT" is going to be embarrassing any LS1 drivers on the street.

BTW: C&D ran a 0-60 in 4.9 and a 1/4 mile in 13.5 @ 107 in a 99' SS A4 I believe.

It ran it. On street tires. Nothing but wishful thinking that it was a fluke.

Unless the LS1 manual driver is shifting hard and fast, he's gonna get rung up by an AUTO GT(possibly driven by a chick). Auto vs auto, the stang's gonna walk the Fbod in a street race.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
Yeah right bro. I can find you a Mach1 running 107-108 for every LS1 that ever did. They're both legit 13.3@105 cars. When did I EVER say the Mach1 was faster than the Fbods? They're EQUAL. You wanna pull out factory freaks running 108 well Ford's got'em too.

I have already destroyed the peak hp myth. Check out a Mach1 dyno some time. It makes big power out to 6600. AREA UNDER CURVE.
Mine ran 13.1@108mph, dead stock M6 2001 SS.

Sorry, it's close enough to be a driver's race, but the last F-cars were still quicker stock than the Mach 1's.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

As much as it pains me to do it, I have to agree with PacerX here. The 03/04 Mach is an equal match for a 98-00, but a tick or two behind (mostly in MPH) the 01/02 LS1. It is most certainly close enough to be a driver's race, but it is there.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by Schismblade
??? I know....what's your point?
Never mind, I misread your post. I thought you were talking about previous models. However, 13.6 is still 13.6 regardless of how many previous runs they had. I suppose that's my point.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
As much as it pains me to do it, I have to agree with PacerX here. The 03/04 Mach is an equal match for a 98-00, but a tick or two behind (mostly in MPH) the 01/02 LS1. It is most certainly close enough to be a driver's race, but it is there.
We're speculating a bit on the manual Mustangs. While they may be as fast as Mach1's, we don't know for sure yet. And, as a Mustang lover (who happens to like Firebirds as well), there's truth to it that the 01/02 LS1 4th Gens were a tick faster than the Mach1's, but again, close enough to be a driver's race.

However, the whole point of this thread was to show that the automatic 05 Mustang GT ran a quick 13.6 seconds. That's a pretty good time for an automatic Mustang GT.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by PacerX
Mine ran 13.1@108mph, dead stock M6 2001 SS.

Sorry, it's close enough to be a driver's race, but the last F-cars were still quicker stock than the Mach 1's.

That's fine. There's a bone stock Mach1 running 12.85@107.
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...highlight=mach

You got a strong runner. There's strong Mach1s too, some driven by shifting freaks.
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
It ran it. On street tires. Nothing but wishful thinking that it was a fluke.

Unless the LS1 manual driver is shifting hard and fast, he's gonna get rung up by an AUTO GT(possibly driven by a chick). Auto vs auto, the stang's gonna walk the Fbod in a street race.
Damn, your posts just scream bias on all accounts.

I love it how you just ignored what I said and stick to "well, it ran it".

Yeah, I love to see every GT on the street try a launch like that.

Camaro driver: Hey, we'll go on three

Mustang driver: Wait, I gotta spin up my tires before I launch.

It ran it, with a very aggresive start and they got lucky and managed to hook during that run. Notice how it talks about the rest of their runs? They weren't nearly as sucessful. Also, with that trap, there isn't much room for improvement buddy. ALSO, read where it's talking about a Manual in comparison. Unless you are a badass driver, you aren't going to get any better times out of it.

The LS1 drivers you are referring to must really suck if they can't get any better than a 13.6.

I ran a 13.2 @ 107 with my.......A4. Just a cut out and lid too. Street tires. Oh, and it's a 2000 too. I'd like to see you find an automatic Mach 1 running those times.


EAT IT.

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by Schismblade
Damn, your posts just scream bias on all accounts.

I love it how you just ignored what I said and stick to "well, it ran it".

Yeah, I love to see every GT on the street try a launch like that.

Camaro driver: Hey, we'll go on three

Mustang driver: Wait, I gotta spin up my tires before I launch.

It ran it, with a very aggresive start and they got lucky and managed to hook during that run. Notice how it talks about the rest of their runs? They weren't nearly as sucessful. Also, with that trap, there isn't much room for improvement buddy. ALSO, read where it's talking about a Manual in comparison. Unless you are a badass driver, you aren't going to get any better times out of it.

The LS1 drivers you are referring to must really suck if they can't get any better than a 13.6.

I ran a 13.2 @ 107 with my.......A4. Just a cut out and lid too. Street tires. Oh, and it's a 2000 too. I'd like to see you find an automatic Mach 1 running those times.


EAT IT.

EAT WHAT??? A blowhard internet "racer" claiming his auto Camaro runs a 13.2@107? With about 10 mods he forgot to tell us about?


I went and read the article.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index....ic=6235&st=120
page 7

They powerbraked it to 2000 and launched. That's what ALL auto drivers do.

Please direct me to where they ran a bunch of 14s?

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Reported: Newest Motortrend Has 05GT @ 5.1s 0-60 and 13.8 @99mph

Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
Unless the LS1 manual driver is shifting hard and fast, he's gonna get rung up by an AUTO GT(possibly driven by a chick). Auto vs auto, the stang's gonna walk the Fbod in a street race.


Only if the M6 LS1 driver screws up. In the case of these two machines, nobody is going to overcome a car up 8-9mph at the traps unless there is a considerable misstep by the driver of the faster trapping car.

Bad launch, blown shift, hitting the limiter, etc...

That's why it's called a driver's race...



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