View Poll Results: Should RS be...
a cosmetic option on any Camaro
17
28.81%
it's own sporty model above the base car
34
57.63%
just left dead
8
13.56%
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Rally Sport poll.
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From: cinci
Originally posted by jg95z28
The Rally Sport or RS (or "rs" for some of us.
) has always been a style option. It has never been about performance.
No AWD. No optional powerplant.
If it is resurrected, it should be a trim package only, be it special paint, stickers, spoilers, trim, headlamps, etc.
The Rally Sport or RS (or "rs" for some of us.
) has always been a style option. It has never been about performance. No AWD. No optional powerplant.
If it is resurrected, it should be a trim package only, be it special paint, stickers, spoilers, trim, headlamps, etc.
as a fellow rs owner (wait, mine's an RS
) you really can get defensive about how the name is being, has been, or is going to be used (same applies to z28, ss, type lt, etc.)i agree with everyword of jg's post here
it should be just an appearance package and i think it'd be nice if you could have it on any camaro (z28, base, etc.)
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So if it is just an appearence package available on every model, then you could have an RS/SS that looks the same as an RS/Z28 which looks the same as an RS/base model except for badges, do we really want that? I don't. I want each model to look distinctively different.
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
So if it is just an appearence package available on every model, then you could have an RS/SS that looks the same as an RS/Z28 which looks the same as an RS/base model except for badges, do we really want that? I don't. I want each model to look distinctively different.
So if it is just an appearence package available on every model, then you could have an RS/SS that looks the same as an RS/Z28 which looks the same as an RS/base model except for badges, do we really want that? I don't. I want each model to look distinctively different.
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Originally posted by jg95z28
No one seems to have a problem distinguishing between the original RS, SS/RS, and Z28/RS from 1967-69.
No one seems to have a problem distinguishing between the original RS, SS/RS, and Z28/RS from 1967-69.
What if instead of an RS package...they had just made ALL Camaros look like that..during those years?
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Originally posted by jg95z28
No one seems to have a problem distinguishing between the original RS, SS/RS, and Z28/RS from 1967-69.
No one seems to have a problem distinguishing between the original RS, SS/RS, and Z28/RS from 1967-69.
I would put my money on GM NOT doing the whole RS/SS thing and that is just fine by me. Just because something was done before does not mean that's how it has to be.
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I dont understand why they'd all have to look the same, it'd just be a step up from the current looks. The idea behind this poll (I believe) was my post in the other thread where I outlined how I'd like the new lineup to be. The RS on the base was different than the Z28/RS which was different than the SS/RS. Base was your basic car, the Z28 was a higher reving road racer and the SS was a pavement pounder, ala first gen designation (success).
The only problem there is that gives us 6 rim options (base, Z28, SS, base/RS, Z28/RS and SS/RS), but with the plethora of options available on the Cobolt, I dont see why a car that costs $10-$15k more cant have a few more options. Hell, if GM really wanted to get fancy, they could give the Z28/RS a cowl hood and the SS/RS a 4th gen style scoop, but I wont hold my breath on that one.
The only problem there is that gives us 6 rim options (base, Z28, SS, base/RS, Z28/RS and SS/RS), but with the plethora of options available on the Cobolt, I dont see why a car that costs $10-$15k more cant have a few more options. Hell, if GM really wanted to get fancy, they could give the Z28/RS a cowl hood and the SS/RS a 4th gen style scoop, but I wont hold my breath on that one.
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Let's put an end to the confusion of the last 15 years...
The "RS" needs a markedly different appearance, different options, even though it should be optioned to share a "mid" V8.
I say AWD, can open a whole new set of doors for GM in this "RS" model...properly packaged in sporty, "Rally" trim, blending a form of the original "grilled headlights" as in '69...with accessories from the race circuit like over-sized round fog lights and painted wheels.. Paint schemes hinting from the '70's, ground effects and interiors from the 3rd & 4th Gens...etc...
Maybe Kris H. can toy around with something like this in his limited spare time??
And I'd like to see the "SS" get some hints from the 1st gens...Like modernized "hood grills", stripe kits and emblems and wheels.(Ofcourse everthing updated(evolved) for the new millineum..)
And the Z28, must be UNMISTAKEABLY different from all other Camaros...Stance, stripes hood scoop, wheels etc..!
I love Camaros probably more than most, and I want to see them on "TOP"! again for the new Millineum, and stay on TOP, this will require some evolutions...
The "RS" needs a markedly different appearance, different options, even though it should be optioned to share a "mid" V8.
I say AWD, can open a whole new set of doors for GM in this "RS" model...properly packaged in sporty, "Rally" trim, blending a form of the original "grilled headlights" as in '69...with accessories from the race circuit like over-sized round fog lights and painted wheels.. Paint schemes hinting from the '70's, ground effects and interiors from the 3rd & 4th Gens...etc...
Maybe Kris H. can toy around with something like this in his limited spare time??
And I'd like to see the "SS" get some hints from the 1st gens...Like modernized "hood grills", stripe kits and emblems and wheels.(Ofcourse everthing updated(evolved) for the new millineum..)
And the Z28, must be UNMISTAKEABLY different from all other Camaros...Stance, stripes hood scoop, wheels etc..!
I love Camaros probably more than most, and I want to see them on "TOP"! again for the new Millineum, and stay on TOP, this will require some evolutions...
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I'd like to see it as a cosmetic option to be attached to any (with the exception of the V6's) model.
Like in the sixties.
Couldv'e been had with the sport coupe.......with the SS's.......or with the Z28.
Like in the sixties.
Couldv'e been had with the sport coupe.......with the SS's.......or with the Z28.
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I've been lurking here for quite some time now (over a year or so) but very rarely make a post. I think its time for me to come out of my shell
Although not likely, how about having the RS designation as the AWD option on any of the models (base, Z28, SS). Also give it an appearance package with different rims and what not. I mean, it does mean Rally Sport doesn't it. And many people associate AWD with Rally IMO. I think GM could make this work. What do you think?
Although not likely, how about having the RS designation as the AWD option on any of the models (base, Z28, SS). Also give it an appearance package with different rims and what not. I mean, it does mean Rally Sport doesn't it. And many people associate AWD with Rally IMO. I think GM could make this work. What do you think?
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Originally posted by SUPERTIM
Although not likely, how about having the RS designation as the AWD option on any of the models (base, Z28, SS). Also give it an appearance package with different rims and what not. I mean, it does mean Rally Sport doesn't it. And many people associate AWD with Rally IMO. I think GM could make this work. What do you think?
Although not likely, how about having the RS designation as the AWD option on any of the models (base, Z28, SS). Also give it an appearance package with different rims and what not. I mean, it does mean Rally Sport doesn't it. And many people associate AWD with Rally IMO. I think GM could make this work. What do you think?
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I thought I knew how to vote in this poll until I read all of the posts. Now, I can't get the RS AWD idea out of my head. Brilliant!
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
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Originally posted by CaminoLS6
I thought I knew how to vote in this poll until I read all of the posts. Now, I can't get the RS AWD idea out of my head. Brilliant!
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
I thought I knew how to vote in this poll until I read all of the posts. Now, I can't get the RS AWD idea out of my head. Brilliant!
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
I just need a couple of more posts like your's, Camino, to push me off the fence.
But I think the AWD package, which may be planned, will require a large dose of increased sportiness to create such an RS package.
Manual trans, for one, would be desirable. Driver adjustable torque transferring would also be good. Consulting with Subaru on something like that would be smart.
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Originally posted by CaminoLS6
I thought I knew how to vote in this poll until I read all of the posts. Now, I can't get the RS AWD idea out of my head. Brilliant!
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
I thought I knew how to vote in this poll until I read all of the posts. Now, I can't get the RS AWD idea out of my head. Brilliant!
It taps into the current AWD rally mentality perfectly while paying homage to Camaro history. And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. So, make the 5.3 the AWD powerplant,add the required flares/body kit and boom, you have an RS that has something to back the name. I'm not sure about it being available on anything called SS or Z28 as an option though. I think this model(option package) could help Camaro gain enough market share to protect the SS and Z28 from the bean-counters in the future. It would also mean that we don't have a laughable RS like the 4th gen. version. Properly done an AWD RS could help secure the future of its RWD SS and Z28 siblings,which could then remain the pure Camaros we all want them to be. I say let RS evolve.
look at alll the other rs's and they seem to not be made fun of, it's just appearance
i still stand firm in saying that rs is only an appearance package and should stay that way
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Originally posted by CaminoLS6
...And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. ...
...And there is more. Assuming that Camaro will be on a form of Zeta, it will likely use the Holden AWD system which is currently compatible with the 5.3 V8 but not with any GMNA V6. ...
BTW none of this have I measured or confirmed but I just used logical deduction to figure it out. So some ofthis may be wrong.