stars1010---were you calling me a Ford guy?
How do you figure?

Hmm....no gen 5 in sight---I think the 05 'Stang concept looks good---what to buy???
There is no choice because GM won't give us one.

Brand loyalty really means little---who builds the car I like best means far more to me.

 

I’m a little confused, I didn’t mention you anywhere in my post. I was talking to ProudPony, That’s why I started my second paragraph with "And Proud…..".

And I'm only brand loyal to a point. I grew up loving Camaros and Corvettes so naturally I tend to lean towards GM. I love the new GTO coming out. But in the end I prefer to be called a car guy. I’m not one of those people who sits around talking trash about other car companies. Hell most of my friends and family drive Fords. I have no problem with that. I love my dads V10 F250. My best friend just sold his 3rd Mustang. I helped him work on all of them. I plan to go into the auto industry. And while my dream job is Chief Engineer of the Corvette or hopefully future Camaro team, I would take a job working at Ford on the stang in a heart beat. I do in most cases prefer Camaros over Mustangs. That’s just my taste. Yet the reason I'm even into cars has to do with the fact that I helped restore a Boss 302 when I was younger. Its seriously one of my favorite cars ever. It just looks damn good in grabber orange with those hockey stick black stripes. In the end though the mustang concept didn’t do a whole lot for me. I wish they would have gone less retro. Yet neither did the SS concept, but in my eyes I think it could look better in final form then the stang. They just need to play with angles and make it less bubbly Its all an opinion thing. Do you see where I'm coming from?

 

The SS looks like an elongated VW Beetle.

I voted for the Mustang. The Mustang actually looks pretty good, compared to the SS, which is actively ugly.

Whether you like it or not, Ford has the better car IMO; better styling, more power, price tag a bit over $30k, etc. I can already see the replies: "Oh no, the GTO is better, look at that interior, and it can fit a family of 4 inside!". WOW! Now where is my handy-dandy "Locate an SVT Dealer" link?

 

stars1010, you may be right and I'm off a little. I am going on assumptions based on what I can see, mostly in photos. I have not had the opportunity to sit in, or much less to drive, either car yet. My "practicality" term was based on my comment about "a 20-something single person who makes $30k/yr and can have 1 car to get groceries, go to the beach, skiing, park in mall lots..."

Granted the 4-doors favors the utilitarian aspect, and even gives benefit to a family unit or constant party of three(?) or more. But for a single person, the 4-door gain is minimal. A nice hatch with true fold-flat rear seats is great for groceries, golf clubs, ski gear, etc.

Another aspect was general ergonimics and driveability... looking at the lines and dimensions of both, I think the Mustang would be easier to parallel park on a busy downtown street, or maneuver in a tight, congested mall parking lot with compact-sized parking spaces. Until we all can sit in these cars and drive them, it is pure speculation about their driver-visibility. Historically, the Mustang has had relatively small overhangs, minimal blind body area, and good visibility through windshield and rear glass. The SS has DEFINITELY got smaller windows - especially the side ones. And it's just my guess, but the hood looks longer and a touch flatter than the Mustang hood. Again, I don't have a feel for how high the seats are so hood view clearance may actually be better in the SS, but from the images I think it could be iffy. Backing into a tight space might be tough for the average wife-g/f with this kind of rear-view field, IMO. I'm kinda tall, so I can stretch-up and look down over the trunk lid, but wifey can't.

It was just little things like that that I was referring to in my post. Don't get me wrong, I really like the SS styling and it has some really neat things going for it, especially in the interior... fold-down seat-back trays like in an airplane?!?! I would love to see one in black with some thin stylish pinstripes and tan interior. And again, you may be spot on and I may be off a bit... the Mustang may not have any advantages at all over this car, but we won't have a way of knowing until we can drive them!

Proud

 

I guess if you use the term "relatively" loosely. The Mustang concept ..I believe is 183 " long....the SS is a whopping 198" long. That's a huge difference in size.

Considering that the "SS" was advertised by some here as a peek into a future Camaro (but recently corrected and clarified by RP), it must be sobering to GM at the preference for the Mustang..... and ON THIS SITE NO LESS!!!

I think this indicates, that if GM doesn't come out with a "slam dunk" Camaro soon, even GM enthusiasts..... (and quite afew of them at that)..... will be taking their checkbooks to their Ford dealer.

 

I guess I must be part of the minority here; I really like the looks of the Chevrolet SS ... especially when imagining it as a 2 door with a chunk cut out of the middle.

I don't dislike the the Mustang fastback and agree the 'vert is horrible.

What I hate is that the Ford diehards can expect to find the Mustang in a showroom in the foreseeable future .... while us Chevy folks get "cues" as to what the future "might" hold.

I think Bill Ford's impact at Ford is paying far greater dividends than Bob Lutz at GM. Case in point ... GT(40) vs. Cien .... both darlings of last years show .... one fasttracked ... one shelved

 

I also really like the SS over the mustang.... even if it doesnt end up being a production car I really like the direction that the styling is going... Ive seen a couple photoshops of that car and with a few mods it would look way sweeter than the mustang in my opinion...although the mustang does look cool.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...59761057eBYnKB
I dont know but I would love it if chevy changed it up like this...

 

That's exactly how I feel. The Mustang fastback is a nice looking car, however it lacks originality as have all of Ford's recent retro-clones. Sure they're stirring up interest in classic styling and maybe that will help influence the industry, however its not as earth-shattering as Chrysler's Prowler or PT Cruiser were. GM has stayed conservatively in the middle on this (i.e. SSR, Belair and now SS.) combining "classic" styling influences with modern technology yet not forgetting about moving into the future.

Now if they'd just get the rest of it right. (Lighter... Affordable... More Power.)

 

Yes, when I consider how boring, unoriginal, and unispiring the Mustang Concept is to me... and then see this as a close race favoring the Mustang on a Chevy website... it is a bit scary...

 

When i voted, it was 11 to 4 in favor of the mustang and i was very surprised. It's alot closer now with the SS down by only 3 votes, 24 to 21.

What's even more surprising is the responses on the import boards.

Boring, unoriginal, and unispiring? ouch, you're a tough ciritic.

 

Hey, at least I was P.C. and made sure to put "to me" in there!

 

It was never intended to be "all-new", and I hope it never is. The success of the car is because it maintains it's identity, not changes it. Slow and steady change... sure. constant improvement to interior, drivetrain, materials, etc... sure. Maintaining the formula and details that made you successful - definitely.

Not flaming or anything, but just what kind of originality are you looking for... the kind that sets the "new" GTO apart from the GP/GA? The originality that set the 50th Vette apart from the average C5? The originality that distinguishes the 35th Camaro from it's Z28/SS brethren? Or the originality that put the SPEAR thru the bowtie?
I'm confused?

 

I look for the originality that sets the C5 apart from the C4 apart from the C3, etc etc etc

The originality that sets the F4 apart from the F3 , etc etc...

They are/were fresh new ideas that still carried on all that was the previous car that carried the name, and more...

 

I couldn't have said it any better Darth!

 

Mustang.

A "sporty" 4-door is like a "good-looking" fat chick.