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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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Platform Sharing for Dummies...

I think this is a pretty good article, though it may be a bit below some of ours level...

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

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Rule No. 2: In a given platform family, the least expensive vehicle will be the best deal. Platform commonality focuses on the hard-core mechanical bits of a vehicle-the structure, the suspension, the brakes, and the powertrain. Platform differentiation is achieved through more superficial qualities, such as styling, feature content, and brand prestige. A Toyota Camry and a Lexus ES300 share the same superb build quality, excellent space utilization, and absorbent suspension. The Lexus delivers more features, a heavier dose of plush, and impresses the neighbors more. The Camry provides all the same basic mechanical goodness for thousands less.
Now just think....of the 07 Camaro comes out it will share a platform with $40K plus cars. So I predict we will see at least...

-Remote Start
-Onstar (every GM car is getting this option...you will see at NAIAS)
-A decent audio system with XM as an option and MP3 playback
capability. (blue tooth?)
-Traction Control standard, stbility control and option or standard

Things that could make it be are not confirmed....
-Paddle shift 6 Speed Auto in higher end models.....
-Displacement on Demand....I would much rather have then CAGS, plus it makes sense in because the Camaro is a few years out and a volume car.
-AWD....It is being developed for the platform....so there is no harm in offering the option. It would be great for the northerners who currently view the Camaro as a second car because it is RWD.

I would not count on....
-Nav system is iffy.....Accords come with one now, but still you have to keep the higher end cars differentiated with trim.
-A base engine that does anything more match or barely beat whatever the comparable mustang is offering. No high feature V6...makes no sense. Most base buyers care more about price and content then overal performance. Plus the high value engines can be turned up to make some nice numbers.


These are just some random thoughts of mine...
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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Most of the items you mentioned don't seem to be dependant on platform sharing.

Some of the items on my wish list that platform sharing might make possible:

- IRS
- premium engine (detuned on paper, of course)
- premium brakes
- Low NVH
- High build quality
- High Reliability
- Low Maintainance
- An experienced, familiar Service Department.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Rule No. 1: The biggest vehicle in a platform family will be the most structurally efficient. You can see this by reviewing the charts in the “Knockout Sedans” comparison tests from last month. Among the big guns, the Audi RS 6 weighed 4229 pounds, 130 pounds more than the average of the three other cars. The Audi S4 Quattro, built on a cutdown version of the RS 6 platform, weighed 3864 pounds-a hefty 342 pounds more than the average of the two others. On a given platform, the smaller car always weighs relatively more.
..but we will probably get a porky Camaro....
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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..but we will probably get a porky Camaro....
The Camaro would still be lighter, it would just have a higher lbs. per cubic foot of interior volume.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Re: Platform Sharing for Dummies...

Originally posted by formula79
I think this is a pretty good article, though it may be a bit below some of ours level...

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

My favorite....



Now just think....of the 07 Camaro comes out it will share a platform with $40K plus cars. So I predict we will see at least...

[stuff]

Things that could make it be are not confirmed....

[more stuff]

I would not count on....

[other stuff]

These are just some random thoughts of mine...
But isn't most of what you've listed here just equipment? This would be first to be chucked out to bring the car's price point down to where everyone here wants it to be ... Platform sharing, as the article says, brings benefits in suspension design, chassis design, advanced construction methods, higher quality, NVH and sealing improvements, etc. It doesn't mean that you get equipment levels that approach KITT ...

Manufacturers will need to use equipment more and more to distinguish their models, as the basic car design becomes more and more common between them.
Old Dec 17, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Platform is the body structure of the car.

Think of the "W" body. Strip off the skin and interior, and the inner structure is the platform. This means the old Grand Prix, the Regal, and even the Impala have not just the same components, but also the same floorpan, same firewall, same basic structure save some minor cosmetic differences.

The brakes, powertrain, and most all the other pieces mentioned are also in other cars. Bonneville is not a "W" body and not the same platform, yet it shares brakes, drivetrain, and many other components from the "W".

The new Full Size RWD cars from GM will use many components (and even some similar structure designs) from the CTS which is called "Sigma". However, the new RWD cars will not be a sigma platform because they are structurally different.

The new RWD "performance" coupes will be yet a different platform. They may share parts and construction with both the "Sigma" Cadillac's, and the "Full Size RWD" chassis, but they will be considered different platforms.

Then again, different car makers use different definitions for "platforms" so the above applies to GM, and may not apply to Nissan-Infinity.
Old Dec 18, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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I can see his point about equipment. If it is standard, or an option across all the vehicals, then it will cost less to put in them. Thus, the new Camaro will probably come standard with power and will proabably come standard with an auto, again.
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