Pics: upcoming Buick Excelle compact
Looks like a nicer version of the Cruze. Nicer especially on the outside. Cruze-like especially on the inside.
Does NOT belong in a brand trying to compete with Lexus.
The Regal is plenty low end enough... competes with the TSX, IS, etc.
This wouldn't compete with any luxury branded car that I can think of. I don't consider Volvo a true lux brand, though.
Acura used to have the RSX. Key words 'used to'. And they're still half a tier below Lexus even now.
Does NOT belong in a brand trying to compete with Lexus.
The Regal is plenty low end enough... competes with the TSX, IS, etc.
This wouldn't compete with any luxury branded car that I can think of. I don't consider Volvo a true lux brand, though.
Acura used to have the RSX. Key words 'used to'. And they're still half a tier below Lexus even now.
It's okay for Buick to get a smaller car, they just have to tread carefully on it's execution. Something like Volvo C30/ Audi A3 should be the target, but as was already mentioned, this will probably not deliver in that regard.
Last edited by Z284ever; Apr 20, 2010 at 09:57 AM.
I like it. My wife liked it enough she asked if we could test drive one. I told her not until next year 
I thought Caddy was competing with Lexus. Now Buick is too? Aside from some motor trend comparisions, Buick is mid level, lexus is luxury.
I think this car could do well. Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.

I thought Caddy was competing with Lexus. Now Buick is too? Aside from some motor trend comparisions, Buick is mid level, lexus is luxury.
I think this car could do well. Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.
Last edited by Silverado C-10; Apr 19, 2010 at 11:25 PM.
I like it. My wife liked it enough she asked if we could test drive one. I told her not until next year 
Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.

Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.
I understand the thinking behind the car (Buick has to appeal to a younger audience, they need an entry-level vehicle). I just think this is the wrong way to go in the NA market.
Well if anything it is working well for Volvo. The S40 was fairly popular with my cohorts in grad school. I would imagine an upscale compact Buick would do just as well.
Let me make sure I am understanding.
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a POS bare bones anemic 138hp cruze. Put a buick grill on it and suddenly it's this refined luxury automobile that is worthy of what is surely a $10,000+ higher price?
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a
What's next the $40,000 Caddilac Aveo
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a POS bare bones anemic 138hp cruze. Put a buick grill on it and suddenly it's this refined luxury automobile that is worthy of what is surely a $10,000+ higher price?
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a

What's next the $40,000 Caddilac Aveo
Last edited by Aaron91RS; Apr 20, 2010 at 08:36 AM.
Let me make sure I am understanding.
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a respected and well crafted Opel that is a top seller in Europe, put a Buick grill on it (just like we will be doing to sell it in China) and remembering it's a refined and upgraded version of the same Delta chassis in the Cruz. Also it is a luxury automobile that is worthy of the ~$20k base price (a little bit more than the Cruze).
I can understand taking a European model not sold in this country but that already has changes to it for the Chinese market and selling it in the states. Just like we did with the G8 and we will do with the Chevy cop car from Holden.
What's next the $50,000 Caddilac Volt? Yes
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a respected and well crafted Opel that is a top seller in Europe, put a Buick grill on it (just like we will be doing to sell it in China) and remembering it's a refined and upgraded version of the same Delta chassis in the Cruz. Also it is a luxury automobile that is worthy of the ~$20k base price (a little bit more than the Cruze).
I can understand taking a European model not sold in this country but that already has changes to it for the Chinese market and selling it in the states. Just like we did with the G8 and we will do with the Chevy cop car from Holden.
What's next the $50,000 Caddilac Volt? Yes
I just don't get it...IS350 to me is a compact luxury car but it looks aspirational.
This does NOT appeal to me. I'm a recent college graduate, and there are 2 types of people my age those who care about cars for 1 reason or another, and those who need to go from a to b.
This car will get you from a to b but people moving from a to b are looking for the cheapest way to do that while meeting the needs that they have.
As for the ones who care about cars for 1 reason or another I don't see 1 compelling reason to choose this car over any other.
I guess we'll see when the car goes on sale...hopefully someone will bring this thread back then and 1 group or the other will be forced to eat their words. For GM's sake I hope it's me...
This does NOT appeal to me. I'm a recent college graduate, and there are 2 types of people my age those who care about cars for 1 reason or another, and those who need to go from a to b.
This car will get you from a to b but people moving from a to b are looking for the cheapest way to do that while meeting the needs that they have.
As for the ones who care about cars for 1 reason or another I don't see 1 compelling reason to choose this car over any other.
I guess we'll see when the car goes on sale...hopefully someone will bring this thread back then and 1 group or the other will be forced to eat their words. For GM's sake I hope it's me...
We can take a POS bare bones anemic 138hp cruze. Put a buick grill on it and suddenly it's this refined luxury automobile that is worthy of what is surely a $10,000+ higher price?
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a

This would be a better fit:
Last edited by Z28x; Apr 20, 2010 at 01:53 PM.
I have to be honest, I hope I am wrong, but I find myself agreeing with the others here. Nothing about this particular "Buick" says "aspirational".


