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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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I would buy a compact luxury car if one of the American manufacturers built one I liked.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Looks like a nicer version of the Cruze. Nicer especially on the outside. Cruze-like especially on the inside.

Does NOT belong in a brand trying to compete with Lexus.

The Regal is plenty low end enough... competes with the TSX, IS, etc.

This wouldn't compete with any luxury branded car that I can think of. I don't consider Volvo a true lux brand, though.

Acura used to have the RSX. Key words 'used to'. And they're still half a tier below Lexus even now.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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It's okay for Buick to get a smaller car, they just have to tread carefully on it's execution. Something like Volvo C30/ Audi A3 should be the target, but as was already mentioned, this will probably not deliver in that regard.

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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I like it.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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I like it. My wife liked it enough she asked if we could test drive one. I told her not until next year

I thought Caddy was competing with Lexus. Now Buick is too? Aside from some motor trend comparisions, Buick is mid level, lexus is luxury.

I think this car could do well. Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Looks like a Buick Cobalt to me. The front end looks pretty dorky in my opinion.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverado C-10
I like it. My wife liked it enough she asked if we could test drive one. I told her not until next year

Buick has NOTHING small enough for younger drivers (people just getting out of college and wanting a new car). Their current line up is rather large, and not everyone wants big cars. Give it a more upscale interior, price it a few K above the cruze, and I think it could do pretty well. Buick NEEDS younger drivers. A NICE entry mid level car could get younger people buying Buicks, which could someday lead to a new lacrosse/enclave, or maybe even a caddy when they need a family ride.
Are there really that many recent college graduates looking for an expensive luxury compact? (That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard 1)
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by zq8colorado04
Are there really that many recent college graduates looking for an expensive luxury compact? (That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard 1)
Question is, are there that many young people looking at a BUICK period?

I understand the thinking behind the car (Buick has to appeal to a younger audience, they need an entry-level vehicle). I just think this is the wrong way to go in the NA market.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Question is, are there that many young people looking at a BUICK period?

I understand the thinking behind the car (Buick has to appeal to a younger audience, they need an entry-level vehicle). I just think this is the wrong way to go in the NA market.
Well if anything it is working well for Volvo. The S40 was fairly popular with my cohorts in grad school. I would imagine an upscale compact Buick would do just as well.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Let me make sure I am understanding.
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a POS bare bones anemic 138hp cruze. Put a buick grill on it and suddenly it's this refined luxury automobile that is worthy of what is surely a $10,000+ higher price?
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a
What's next the $40,000 Caddilac Aveo

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
Let me make sure I am understanding.
We can't just put some different body panels on the camaro and make a TA.
We can't just keep throwing a new nose on everything and rebrand a chevy to a pontiac g5.
We can take a respected and well crafted Opel that is a top seller in Europe, put a Buick grill on it (just like we will be doing to sell it in China) and remembering it's a refined and upgraded version of the same Delta chassis in the Cruz. Also it is a luxury automobile that is worthy of the ~$20k base price (a little bit more than the Cruze).
I can understand taking a European model not sold in this country but that already has changes to it for the Chinese market and selling it in the states. Just like we did with the G8 and we will do with the Chevy cop car from Holden.

What's next the $50,000 Caddilac Volt? Yes
I suggest you re-read your post with my changes. It will make more sense this way, instead of aimless bashing.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by zq8colorado04
Are there really that many recent college graduates looking for an expensive luxury compact? (That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard 1)
I said I thought it could do well a few K above the Cruze, I didn't say anything about an expensive luxury compact. Luxury is supposed to by Caddy's job. And why not? I know people who bought 30-40K trucks and SUV's a year or two after college, why not a low 20K mid level compact (which really aren't even "compact" anymore.)
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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I just don't get it...IS350 to me is a compact luxury car but it looks aspirational.

This does NOT appeal to me. I'm a recent college graduate, and there are 2 types of people my age those who care about cars for 1 reason or another, and those who need to go from a to b.

This car will get you from a to b but people moving from a to b are looking for the cheapest way to do that while meeting the needs that they have.

As for the ones who care about cars for 1 reason or another I don't see 1 compelling reason to choose this car over any other.

I guess we'll see when the car goes on sale...hopefully someone will bring this thread back then and 1 group or the other will be forced to eat their words. For GM's sake I hope it's me...
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
We can take a POS bare bones anemic 138hp cruze. Put a buick grill on it and suddenly it's this refined luxury automobile that is worthy of what is surely a $10,000+ higher price?
Are you kidding me?
I can understand rebranding when both cars are similiar in price and semi close in precieved luxury level, but this is a
This isn't a Cruze rebadge, it a based on the Opel Astra, not the Cruze.


Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Question is, are there that many young people looking at a BUICK period?

I understand the thinking behind the car (Buick has to appeal to a younger audience, they need an entry-level vehicle). I just think this is the wrong way to go in the NA market.
They need something trendy like a Mini Cooper, something that stands out from the crowd.

This would be a better fit:

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I suggest you re-read your post with my changes. It will make more sense this way, instead of aimless bashing.
I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. The car won't necessarily be bad, but I wouldn't expect a world-beater either.

I have to be honest, I hope I am wrong, but I find myself agreeing with the others here. Nothing about this particular "Buick" says "aspirational".

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