Nomad now not a certainty, part 2
Vent time since I would like to remain a GM guy; This decision is one more reason why our next two cars will be a Dodge Magnum for the wife and a Ford/Chrysler V8 rwd car for me. Although I have the "money" and salary to buy a Vette or CTS-V I believe in value too. Value in my mind is 30K for a reasonably equipped V8 rwd car (a turbocharged 4 might've worked, particularly since I really liked Nomad's styling). Spoiled by the 4th gen, absolutely. I'm not spoiled by house prices though, entry point for something around here is 500K. Just one more reason why "value" is so important. A beancounter should be able to understand this concept.
Last edited by dnovotny; Jul 1, 2004 at 04:16 PM.
General Motors and the US Congress are capable of killing projects like bugspray into a beehive... And only half the time is there a good reason. The other half is because of political infighting...Pure and simple.
Originally posted by MissedShift
General Motors and the US Congress are capable of killing projects like bugspray into a beehive... And only half the time is there a good reason. The other half is because of political infighting...Pure and simple.
General Motors and the US Congress are capable of killing projects like bugspray into a beehive... And only half the time is there a good reason. The other half is because of political infighting...Pure and simple.
Perhaps that is the case here, but there isn't any info supporting that.
GM has a huge amount of vehicles in the pipeline and a limited amount of cash. Unlike Ford & Chrysler, who are hungry & willing to take chances, GM is a large conservative company. As long as they are gaining market share & are selling 'X' million vehicles per year, they are set up to sustain that.
GM has never really did niche cars before, so the built in mentality is "What's the point?".
Getting a Camaro isn't an issue (just waiting for a chassis). Winning money to get a Holden built GTO to replace the Grand Prix coupe is all but childsplay. Getting a coupe where none exists at Cadillac and Buick, or a low cost sports car at Pontiac (where the Firebird left a lineup gap) or at Saturn to boost showroom traffic is relatively easy at GM if you clear the basic hurdles.
But how do you justify a car like the Nomad for a division that's going to be chock-blocked full of products within a few years, and sells more models than the rest of GM combined?
I'm not defending GM, mind you. Though I believe GM is going to sell cars forever, and they really don't need to move quickly to survive (though I sometimes sound otherwise), when you see how quickly other car makers react to market changes & public praise for a concept idea, GM tends to be the last one able to wallow to the party.
I perfectly understand the "why" behind slamming the brakes on the Nomad (I'm not 100% sure it's politics this time). It's just that there's bigger fish to fry that have bigger payoffs instead of spending more time & money on a car the public seems to be luke-warm on.
It's just that I think that being that the car is a no loss proposition, it's a very, very big mistake to delay or cancel the car.
The Nomad is fine the way it is.
Make it a turbo ecotec combined with a hyrbid motor giving about 50mpg or so, market it heavily for city use and show off the ability to hold a lot of people along with stuff, and show off how it can also take you out of the city and you can cruse around the suburbs in style and still have a great looking car with good handling and the like....
No V8's, no magnum-sized cars... Nomad would make even a great Golf/Audi A3 and BMW 1 series compeditor. Give it to Opel...they will come up with something.
Make it a turbo ecotec combined with a hyrbid motor giving about 50mpg or so, market it heavily for city use and show off the ability to hold a lot of people along with stuff, and show off how it can also take you out of the city and you can cruse around the suburbs in style and still have a great looking car with good handling and the like....
No V8's, no magnum-sized cars... Nomad would make even a great Golf/Audi A3 and BMW 1 series compeditor. Give it to Opel...they will come up with something.
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