Just to clear the air.......

THE NEW LACROSSE WILL NOT BE MADE IN CHINA....... IT WILL ONLY BE DESIGNED THERE!

This means you can put your Chinaphobia aside as far as importing the car from there, or any subject relating to quality.

China is LaCrosse's biggest market, and more Buicks are/will be sold in China than in the US, which also plays into the scheme of things.

An added bonus (which blows to hell and back those stories of Buick dealers able to kill rwd because it will hurt Lucerne sales): the car in question is based on the RWD Zeta platform.

Discuss further.

 

Oh man, here we go again, yet another GM car that we can't buy in Canada!!! It's the GTO all over again! LaCrosse, what's a LaCrosse????


JK, I know it's called Allure here.......

I believe it's primarily the interior that is different in China and that will be the part of the car that will be designed in China as opposed to the exterior. I don't believe I've seen and comparative interior shots of the domestic vs Chinese versions but supposedly, the Chinese interior is superior to the domestic version - more to do with details than anything else. Personally, I don't think the Allure/LaCrosse interior is too shabby - the weakest part of the domestic execution seems to be the center console/lid which seems "cheap" at least in the CXS I tried out

 

I don't know nothing about Buicks in China.
I can't contribute to this thread whatsoever.

 

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Ooops... how'd that Chevy pic get in here...

 

Moving the product design from the US to China is just another step.

I KEEP SAYING, and nobody wants to hear me...
You folks here in the USA better wake up soon and start appreciating what we have, because it is slowly and surely going away. It is NOT our birthright to "rule the world" or "remain a free country".

China is a very real and serious threat to the US economically and socially.

I am not a bit surprised by the sales figures of Buick in China, and I assure you it will only get better for them over there. Don't think Buick's success in China had nothing to do with Buick staying around and Olds getting the axe in the USA do you?

GM-Shanghai is one of the most profound manufacturers in China now, and they yeild a big stick.

Maybe I'll get fired-up on some specifics after lunch... honestly, I hope not. It makes my blood pressure go up.

 

Camero, LeCrosse, what the heck . . .

 

'Bout time you spelled that right!
The Chinese Lacrosse is on W-body, just like the Chinese Buick Regal, still made over there though it has been updated. There was speculation that thier Lacrosse was Epsilon but that was proven incorrect from GM's own press releases. The next Chinese Lacrosse, as well as ours, will be on Epsilon II and is likely only 2 years out. The VZ Holden import to China is the Buick Royam and IMO is VERY Buick, as much or more than the hot selling Lucerne.

 

Whoa...wait a second. Guy, are you saying that the next Lacrosse will be rwd...on zeta????

 

You won't get a peep from me over China's threat. When you look at what made the US as strong as it is (raw resources that made us self sufficient, strong exports that brought money into the country...used to farther fuel expansion and military buildup..., a plentyful and cheap manufacturing based labor force, sustained internal growth) China also has that as well.

China has every single raw resource they need without importing, they are primarily an export country meaning largely the world's money is flowing into China, the workforce by standards outside of China is cheap, and with something like 1/3 to 1/4 the planet's population, there's no shortage of market and won't be until the day China breaks apart into numerous smaller countries..... in short, not in ours, our children's, or even our children's children's lifetime (China has already been around thousands of years).

Then throw on top of all this the fact the US deficit is being financed mainly by China in order to keep US tax rates artificially low (to pay off the debt, you'll be sending the check to China), the US manufacturing base has deteriorated at an alarming rate, and the US market is stagnant and the population can grow (an important factor in generating wealth in a market driven economy) only by way of more immigration (which we are now restricting), and you get a feeling that it won't be too many years.... in our lifetime... that China could very well become the most powerful nation on the planet, leaving the US as the new Great Britain: A nice, semi-well off nation, but still a has-been superpower that is a shadow of it former self, that is more involved with it's own issues-problems-traditions that it takes a back seat in economic, and perhaps military power in the world.


Oh yeah. I'm VERY aware of China's threat.

But since we here in the US have deteriorated down to the level of political idealolgy and the illusion we are always going to be number one and that everything is a free ride instead of facing the realities of the world and what we need to do to stay ahead, I guess I've become sort of resigned to it.

There is a bright and lucrative future for translators that can speak fluent Chinese, though.

 

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THE CHINESE CAN BUILD A BETTER HOT ROD THAN AMERICAN ENGINEERS!

 

To me it kinda looks like an Aura..

 

Buick is a Hot Rod???

I don't think so.

Top it off, China is building for their own market, and we'll be building for ours. Furthermore, China is desinging the thing, so we aren't talking about "American Engineers" building anything


China is handling the interior design & directing on exterior, Australia supplies the chassis, the US engineered the engines which are made in Mexico if it's a V8 or Australia if it's the V6, and our version will be made in Canada.

The parent company, General Motors, is American, if that helps any.