So what does the Avalon look like?

 

Oh boy! Japanese at its finest. Looks like they really liked the new BMW trunk design. I hope Cadillac puts em' out of business.

 

STS deffinatly has a more agressive look.

Bah, who gives...its a Lexus.

 

Man who woulda ever thought you guys were biased?

 

yea, i'm definately surprised at the bias shown so far

 

Nice LeXus AVALON!!

The vertical looking body side and the frt looks like a massaged Avalon. The stretched rear pillar, Maxima. The rear qtr panels, BMW. The rr 3/4 view, G35.
This thing has got an identity problem.

The interior is beautiful. Lexus' name(to me) is still just a notch or so below MB and BMW, but personally I think they make some of the most luxurious looking interiors.

I'd rather get the GX470.

 

I am not a fan of the exterior at all but I do really like the interior design.

 

Is it a hatch back?

 

I was thinking the same thing.

 

They need a v10 or v12 in their flagship sedan and something like the Supra TT to target c6 in price and performance.

 

The Avalon is on the old Camry chassis. The GS is RWD, Avalon is FWD.

 

Why would the new GS have a 3.0 liter V6 when the ES has a 3.3 liter V6?

245hp is pretty decent, but 228lb ft of torque is not so great in a heavy, automatic transmission luxury car. I would think there should be a GS350 with a 3.5l V6 also.

 

I thought there was a new Avalon coming out next spring?

Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of the new GS. When will cars stop looking so bloated?

 

The Avalon is terribly outdated but will have a ground-up redesign coming out to dealerships for the '05 model year. The current model is based on the previous gen Camry chassis which dates back to 1992. The new one is based on the '02+ Camry chassis, albeit extended wheelbase (as was the previous generation). The new avalon is going to be a very large car. Some people suspect one of, if not the largest major production unibody vehicle made to date. Longer than even the LS430.

It's suspected that Lexus is hiding some info... like either when the car is first released, or within the next model year, they will release a hybrid system for the car.

That motor is designed from the ground up to be paired with a hybrid motor and AWD car.

They might end up just doing that right around the same time as they release the all new V8 motor.

So in other words, the new V6 will have a good amount of power once the hybrid system comes along, but as for now they prolly don't wanna get it too close to the 4.3L V8's power for sales purposes.

Lastly, the newly designed V6 is a brand new design and ultra-smooth and designed to be about as bullet-proof as possible. The 3.3L in the Camry/Sienna/Avalon dates all the way back to 1992 at least (although it has had VVT-i, increased displacement, and several other enhancements through the years). The 3.3L is not nearly as smooth and bullet-proof of a motor, and that's why it was never put in the GS300 before... they always used the 2JZ-GT inline 6.

 

that exhaust makes it look like a g35 contender