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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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General Motors has taken some of the wraps off of its 2010 Duramax diesel V8, revealing clever design features and technologies that clearly push the state-of-the-art in Vee-type compression-ignition engines.

Unveiled during a media briefing at its Milford, MI, Proving Grounds, the new 4.5-L powerplant will be one of the most powerful, lowest-emitting, and package-efficient light-duty V8 diesels in the marketplace, company engineers claimed.

The new Duramax is scheduled to enter production in late 2009 at GM's Tonawanda, NY, engine plant. It will power GM's full-size pickup trucks and utilities, among other potential applications. Rated output is targeted at more than 310 hp (231 kW), for 68 hp/L (51 kW/L), and 520 lb•ft (705 N•m).

The Duramax was designed to fit within the ultra-compact envelope of GM's small-block gasoline V8. Its NVH profile also targets the gas engine. These aggressive requirements drove many of the engine's innovations announced to date.

The new engine's aluminum cylinder heads' exhaust ports face inboard, toward the valley of the cylinder block. This allows the single variable-geometry turbocharger, exhaust-gas recirculation (EGR) cooler, and close-coupled oxidation catalyst to reside within the valley. The layout negates the need for separate exhaust manifolds while reducing overall width.

The reversed-head orientation also means the new diesel does not use a conventional intake manifold. Its intake ports are internal, rather than arrayed along an exterior face of the head as in common practice. The ports are fed pressurized charge directly through the tops of the intake camshaft covers.

The heads' unique two-tiered internal construction segregates the intake route, the chain-driven DOHC valvegear, and water jacket. (The fully dressed engine on display was not sectioned, so no internal details were revealed.)

Compacted graphite-iron (CGI) optimizes the cylinder block's strength and mass. The block's cylinder banks are splayed at 72º to achieve a narrow overall package with even firing, but the narrow vee requires a balance shaft for smooth running. GM studied aluminum block castings but determined that the light alloy would not deliver sufficient long-term durability and could not cope with the cylinder pressures planned for the new engine.

The main bearing caps are precision-fractured ("cracked"). This novel application of a feature that is commonly used for connecting rod big-ends enables closer crank-to-bearing tolerances with greatly improved assembly accuracy.

Piezo-type common-rail fuel injectors operating at 2000 bar (29,000 psi) are one of the keys to the new diesel meeting ultra-stringent U.S. Tier 2 bin 5 and California LEV2 emissions regulations. Another enabler is the engine's urea-based selective catalytic reduction system for reducing engine-out NOx (oxides of nitrogen) emissions.

The Duramax is package-protected for closed-loop cylinder pressure monitoring, a technology GM will introduce on its new 2.9-L turbodiesel V6 next year in Europe.

The initial concept for the new Duramax sprang from impromptu brainstorming sessions between GM's Director of Diesel Engineering, Charlie Freese, and the V8's Chief Engineer, Gary Arvan.

"It was totally clean-sheet," Freese recalled. "Starting with very rough sketches, our path to every technical solution began with a 'what if.' We ended up avoiding traditional approaches."

And Mountain Dew, rather than coffee, was the engineers' preferred beverage during the meetings, which stretched into many late evenings.

According to Arvan, one strategic goal was to eliminate the component duplications that make Vee-type diesels inherently more complex and costly. Hence the single turbocharger and absence of exhaust manifolds.

Another goal was "to shorten the typical long induction and exhaust paths and minimize surface area along the way, to quickly get the hot exhaust out of the heads and into the turbo," he noted.

Eliminating the intake manifold and employing internal exhaust-gas recirculation also reduces the number of noise-radiating surfaces, Arvan said. And the stout CGI block "is stiffer than any competitive cylinder block we've analyzed—and we've analyzed them all," Freese added.

The Duramax's bills of design and materials (BoD and BoM) were developed to achieve some commonality with the current-generation 6.6-L V8. Shared features include the quick-start system with intake air heater, electronic EGR, and some elements of the larger diesel's electronic control system. The 4.5-L engine will employ a new E86 engine controller.

GM will uncloak more of the V8's secrets this year, after the automaker establishes patents in a number of areas, said Freese.
That's very interesting... like BMW's new TT V8, but crazier.
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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There was actually some sort of press release on this motor before the BMW motor.
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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I'd like to see a big cutout of the intake path. I can't really visualize what's going on with that intake going into the "valve cover," if that's what it is.

Cool stuff, though. Why is the 2.9l TD V6 not being considered for immediate release here, as well? The 4.5 is perfect for Tahoe and such, and the 2.9 would probably work well in Colorado and such.
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd80Z28
I'd like to see a big cutout of the intake path. I can't really visualize what's going on with that intake going into the "valve cover," if that's what it is.

Cool stuff, though. Why is the 2.9l TD V6 not being considered for immediate release here, as well? The 4.5 is perfect for Tahoe and such, and the 2.9 would probably work well in Colorado and such.

Or here...
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=576769
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Are they actually going to use it, or is this like the "Twin cam in block V8" that they showed around a few years ago only to never be seen again...
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Are they actually going to use it, or is this like the "Twin cam in block V8" that they showed around a few years ago only to never be seen again...
It will be in the H2 and Chevy trucks come 2009. It is being built in the engine plant outside Buffalo, NY
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Originally Posted by Todd80Z28
I'd like to see a big cutout of the intake path. I can't really visualize what's going on with that intake going into the "valve cover," if that's what it is.

Cool stuff, though. Why is the 2.9l TD V6 not being considered for immediate release here, as well? The 4.5 is perfect for Tahoe and such, and the 2.9 would probably work well in Colorado and such.
I believe what you are calling the valve cover is the manifold for that side.
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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I believe what you are calling the valve cover is the manifold for that side.
Well, I figured that, which is why I put it in quotes. The valves have to be under there, too, somehow. I've been looking at wedge and pent-roof heads for so long, I can't think outside the box.
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Originally Posted by Todd80Z28
Well, I figured that, which is why I put it in quotes. The valves have to be under there, too, somehow. I've been looking at wedge and pent-roof heads for so long, I can't think outside the box.
If I was to guess, I would say the bulge running horizontally at the height of the yellow dipstick is the manifold and the runners are for two ports/cylinder and can be seen running vertically in an oval shape, two on each side of the dipstick.

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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the article I read at work about this also said it will bolt up to the ls motor mounts.... can you say diesel camaro! I think it would be pretty cool.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Looks like a nightmare to work on.
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I'm willing to bet its easier than the 6.4 Powerstroke
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Nothing has been easy to work on since 1970. Get used to it.

The CGI block looks sweet!
Whats the power output on the 2.9L like?
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https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=561719 12-07-2007

Thought this thread sounded familiar
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=561719 12-07-2007

Thought this thread sounded familiar
I thought THAT thread sounded familiar

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=561246



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