Think we will see the Gen V before the C7?

ATS should be out before the C7

 

I'm not sure where everything stands now.

We'll see a racing version of the GenV next spring though....

 

On the GT2 c6r right?

Other teams are bitchin about GM DI tech lol.

 

Does "V" necessarily mean "V8"?

Why can't the ATS come standard with a turbo Ecotec and the ATS-v get the 3.6L DI V6 in the CTS and Camaro?

Or, who's to say a turbocharged version of the 3.6L DI V6 wouldn't be enough? What would it produce, 375hp? 400hp?

 

Could be.

 

I was thinking this myself too. If the ATS is supposed to be smaller and lighter a v8 may be out of the question and a turbo 3.6 may be sweet. Much as I hate to say it (and it pains me), we have to look elsewhere for a performance fix than a v8.

Heaven forbid GM offer us a twin turbo on one of the sixes - 2.8, 30 or 3.6.

 

Exactly! Its not like the ATS is the flagship Cadillac. Its slated to be the entry level model for cripesake!

 

Yeah, I did give it some thought. From what I've read, GM have already developed a 3.6L TT V6, but for various reasons has not used it. Maybe, now that Ford are actively promoting Ecoboost, it's enough to prompt GM to also include a turbo V6 in some of its range.

 

Perception is everything. No matter how great the LSx performs..it is still a caveman like pickup truck motor compared to what BMW has. People who buy BMW's and Mercedes know this. If Cadillac wants to compete..it needs to do so with a world class engine.

 

Maybe moving forward, they should blow the cobwebs off this one, if it does exist. If the ATS is to be a true 3-series than the TT v6 (at least in a V-series type of car) would be a good match for the BMW 335 and maybe even the M3 since the DI 3.6 is already good for 304hp - and is a well regarded engine... dare I say a 'world class' engine, so it could compete with the BMW or Benz set.

 

Lets hope it gets better than 14/20 mpg too. Yikes, the M3 is a fuel addict.

 

Who says that certain versions of the GenV won't have premium technology and features...

 

You are soooo right!

People do actually believe that unless GM is able to build a 4.0L V8 that is able to exceed the performance levels set by BMW, then GM's engineering integrity is non-comparable.

So does that mean GM should try to out-engineer BMW? It's a game fraught with risks. An 'overly' expensive one too!

IMO, GM doesn't have to prove anything to anyone on engine technology because it has some excellent powertrains. All GM needs to do is use its powertrains to build an M3 beater. Also not such an easy task but within GM's capabilities, I would think.

 

90% of the people that buy those cars know nothing about the engine anyway. All Cadillac would have to do is throw around terms like: VVT, AFM, S/C, Dry sump oiling, etc. Then just top it off with a big engine cover to add to the mystery and BAM the average Joe will think its something way beyond his comprehension.

 

That's a major reason why the next M3 will have a turbo 6, probably I-6, though BMW is supposedly kicking around the idea of a V6, for better packaging and lighter weight, though given BMW's heritage with I-6s, most think they'll stick with the inline.