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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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My opinions about Chevy

I think Chevy is going under, they need new talent. Ford is DOMINATING on so many levels of new radical cars they've shown. I know, yep I got it, if Chevy makes a new Camaro they should get whoever designed the HHR, wait no can't do that cause then I'd have to talk to the people that designed the new Dodge Durango. Ok, I got it this time, Chevy should get whoever designed the Corvette C6, wait no can't do that either, cause then they'd have to talk to whoever designed the 2000 Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept. Don't get me wrong I love the way the HHR and C6 look, I'm just pointing out that the only way Chevy can make good looking cars is by stealing design and styling features from other cars, it's pretty pathetic to me. Chevy needs to really start stepping up their game, I mean look at the 2006 Impala and Monte Carlo...they look pretty much the same in the front. And as I've read another post on here, Chevy is going to start making all their cars and trucks look the same?.......umm stupid. When it's come down to that, I think you've got a problem somewhere. I'm not against Chevy and I'm trying to keep hope for them, but more and more as time goes on, that hope of mine just keeps drifting away.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Yea I know how you feel, I wish they would put me in charge of GM, I would probley run the business aspects of it into the ground, but I would make sure we get one sweet Camaro!
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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No me!

I want to be in charge!
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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No honestly GM needs to put ol' Kris horton in charge of the new F-Body designing . (if and when they decide to pull the thumbs outta their a$$e$)
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:43 AM
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It's funny because it has been said the second generation Viper took a lot of past Corvette cues. So the fact that the C6 in some ways resembles a new Viper should not be surprising.
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Its funny, I always saw the PT cruiser as a rip off, of the old chevy milk trucks ( Gravedigger)! And doesn't all the dodge stuff have the same look? And they are selling great no? It always amazes me how any company can copy or borrow design ideas or engine tech. from the General, and no one says a word, but the minute the General puts out something that is remotely close to anything someone else does, everyone gets their panties in a bunch. Don't get me wrong HHR is not for me but its a hell of a lot nicer than the PT IMO. And we all know what they are like. Opinions that is! Its seems to me ppl look at GM through some kind of anti GM filter. Kinda like the french look at the US, we can never do anything right! The prowler for example, was an awsome lookin' car but had no ***** due to the V6. Now the SSR like it or not the reaction from the public was so good they put it into production. Ok its heavy, but at least theres a V8 and its got some *****, and if you need more, the engine they gave it will respond nicely to some bolt ons. Does remember Cien ? I know, it was a concept, but it was a working concept, DoD. Chrysler did the semi-hemi with MDS and nobody says boo? Its seems some of you here would like GM to fold, but to me that would be a sad day in history. They are the leaders of innovation as far as I'm concerned. Now I may be biased, as I've been into GM stuff since I could speak. However I do believe many of you here are as well, only biased the other way!
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Thank you, SCNGENNFTHGEN.

Ford is dominating? Mmmmkayyyy...
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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WE DESPERATELY NEED A "WHY DID I CLICK THIS LINK" SMILIE.

Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
WE DESPERATELY NEED A "WHY DID I CLICK THIS LINK" SMILIE.

Email JasonD about it; he might take you up on it...
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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What was that sucking sound again? Will I be left standing here alone, with my bowtie ink in 1 hand, and my u know what in the other? I don't care! I will be Bowtie till I Die! Hello..,Hello..., what is that damn echo
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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You're absolutely right...

...........so why, then, is it that Chevrolet outsold Ford this year for the first time in 18 years?

While GM Sales may be down, Chevrolet and Cadillac Divisions are going better than they have in a long while. Trucks are down..esp. SUVs...due to two reasons....gasoline prices and they're at the end of a lifecycle.

Don't mean to flame, but make sure you check facts.........
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pandamonkey
No me!

I want to be in charge!
No Me! I'm out of work anyway! I'm minutes from e-town I could abuse the next... Um... sportbike for u!
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Eh. Design should probably be somewhat conservative for most of the Chevrolet lineup. Love it or hate it these cars should appeal to the most people possible. Chevrolet needs to work on interior quality, both real and perceived.
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Percieved is the real problem. I just don't know how, other than to keep improving the product, we can change ppl's perception of GM. So, continuous improvement(kaizen) is a major +. Old Nader really did a # on my fav. auto manufacturer, and even though much good has come out of it. The sting is still there in many americans. I wouldn't be surprised if it was passed onto some of you from your parents. It is also why GM is so damn conservative, they can't take any risks of putting out anything wild. Just imagine what would hapen if they put out a $150,000 car and had recalls! The vultures would come out of the wood work. They are even being attacked now for telling ppl not to drink and drive. They are damned if they do , and they are damned if they don't! Go figure!
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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wayyyyyyy back in 1914, Theodore McManus wrote an ad for the Saturday Evening Post.......Mr. McManus worked on the Cadillac Account....and the title of the ad was "the penalty of Leadership"....here it is...and I think it speaks volumes as to what happens when you're the largest and the leader........

(by the way....you may want to read Auto Week's latest article on the Cobalt LT Sedan......)



THE PENALTY OF LEADERSHIP - by Theodore F. MacManus

In every field of human endeavor, he that is first must perpetually live in the white light of publicity. Whether the leadership be vested in a man or in a manufactured product, emulation and envy are ever at work. In art, in literature, in music, in industry, the reward and the punishment are always the same. The reward is widespread recognition; the punishment, fierce denial and detraction. When a man's work becomes a standard for the whole world, it also becomes a target for the shafts of the envious few. If his work be merely mediocre, he will be left severely alone - if he achieve a masterpiece it will set a million tongues a-wagging. Jealousy does not protrude its forked tongue at the artist who produces a commonplace painting. Whatsoever you write, or paint, or play, or sing, or build, no one will strive to surpass, or to slander you, unless your work be stamped with the seal of genius.

Long, long after a great work or a good work has been done, those who are disappointed or envious continue to cry out that it can not be done. Spiteful little voices in the domain of art were raised against our own Whistler as a mountebank, long after the big world had acclaimed him its greatest artistic genious. Multitudes flocked to Bayreuth to worship at the musical shrine of Wagner, while the little group of those whom he had dethroned and displaced argued angrily that he was no musician at all. The little world continued to protest that Fulton could never build a steamboat, while the big world flocked to the river banks to see his boat steam by.

The leader is assailed because he is a leader, and the effort to equal him is merely added proof of that leadership. Failing to equal or to excel, the follower seeks to depreciate and to destroy - but only confirms once more the superiority of that which he strives to supplant. There is nothing new in this. It is as old as the world and as old as the human passions - envy, fear, greed, ambition, and the desire to surpass. And it all avails nothing. If the leader truly leads, he remains - the leader. Master-poet, master-painter, master-workman, each in his turn is assailed, and each holds his laurels through the ages. That which is good or great makes itself known, no matter how loud the clamor of denial. That which deserves to live - lives



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