Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Originally Posted by guionM
It's a mistake to discount Ford's mention that Mustang performance enthusiast prefered a live axle out back. One can be cynical about this, but as a former Mustang guy I can fully well believe it.
Would they have done anything differently?
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Personally, I don't give a rats *** what the European's think of a car I might be interested in buying. They can call it old, out of date, antique, obsolete, or whatever else they want to label it. However it is made for North America, and like it or not, acceleration is put on a higher pedestal (for performance cars) than going around corners by a majority of us unedumacated Umerikans. In other words - 0-60 still rules the roost on this side of the pond.
The Mustang is what it is - Ford thought about changing its focus in the late 80's and was soundly debuked (Probe). No matter what you think of the styling, and with the possible exception of the car's pork, the 05 Mustang sticks to its guns, so to speak. I hope it stays that way.
The IRS would be a very neat option - just not one that I'd opt for.
The Mustang is what it is - Ford thought about changing its focus in the late 80's and was soundly debuked (Probe). No matter what you think of the styling, and with the possible exception of the car's pork, the 05 Mustang sticks to its guns, so to speak. I hope it stays that way.
The IRS would be a very neat option - just not one that I'd opt for.
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
I just wanted to say this.
While the majority of publications slammed Ford about the Mustang having a solid axle, they did so without ever driving or testing one. Since then, pretty much every publication has sang its praises. This is based on actual driving and testing of the car.
I found it interesting that Autoweek actually liked the ride and handling of the '05 Mustang GT much better than the '05 GTO that they tested it against. They also liked the entire car much better.
Thus, when the IRS comes out for the SE Mustangs, it should then be an option available on any model. This way you satisfy both sides.
While the majority of publications slammed Ford about the Mustang having a solid axle, they did so without ever driving or testing one. Since then, pretty much every publication has sang its praises. This is based on actual driving and testing of the car.
I found it interesting that Autoweek actually liked the ride and handling of the '05 Mustang GT much better than the '05 GTO that they tested it against. They also liked the entire car much better.
Thus, when the IRS comes out for the SE Mustangs, it should then be an option available on any model. This way you satisfy both sides.
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Originally Posted by morb|d
if you want to put your head in the sand it shouldn't, but it does anyway. every other day you'll see someone else b1tching about how the brits or some other Euro or foreign rag is knocking on the Stang or other US cars. if it didn't matter, there wouldn't be so much stink about the topic would there?
the point is, they don't get us. they don't see how we could be happy with "ancient" tech. and until we start understanding where they're coming from, there's 0 chance of US automakers making a dent in the foreign markets. and if you notice how well the foreigners have been doing at taking over the domestic market, you'd have to agree its a rather big thing to be able to sell your product elsewhere. if US closed its doors to foreign makes tomorrow, their revenues would drop by 1/2. now imagine if US auto industry had as much revenue from foreign markets as they do from ours....
that's all I'm saying.
the point is, they don't get us. they don't see how we could be happy with "ancient" tech. and until we start understanding where they're coming from, there's 0 chance of US automakers making a dent in the foreign markets. and if you notice how well the foreigners have been doing at taking over the domestic market, you'd have to agree its a rather big thing to be able to sell your product elsewhere. if US closed its doors to foreign makes tomorrow, their revenues would drop by 1/2. now imagine if US auto industry had as much revenue from foreign markets as they do from ours....
that's all I'm saying.
IRS should be an option. Let people tack it on if they want. I'm sure most people won't care, and won't opt for it. Best of both worlds.
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Accomplish those goal with other American cars then . Leave the Camaro and Mustang to their roots and if the rest of the world doesnt like them , Im about positive they wont be too upset they wont be purchasing one .
My head isnt in the sand at all man . Im talking about just 2 cars that are very specific in heritige , very American and have not changed in concept since their inception . You are in just a small minority in your beliefs as I am in mine , the rest of the people ( the largest percentage ) that buy these 2 cars dont even know the difference between the 2
The world would be a much better place with a pushrod LS2 and rear end stonger than 10 bolt in a camaro
My head isnt in the sand at all man . Im talking about just 2 cars that are very specific in heritige , very American and have not changed in concept since their inception . You are in just a small minority in your beliefs as I am in mine , the rest of the people ( the largest percentage ) that buy these 2 cars dont even know the difference between the 2
The world would be a much better place with a pushrod LS2 and rear end stonger than 10 bolt in a camaro
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Before this thread spins out of control......let me assure everyone that there is absolutely no chance of a live rear axle Camaro.
The last live rear axle Camaro has already been built.
Live rear axle? ****, by the time we see a new Camaro...we may not even be using conventional shock absorbers anymore.
The last live rear axle Camaro has already been built.
Live rear axle? ****, by the time we see a new Camaro...we may not even be using conventional shock absorbers anymore.
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Live rear axle? ****, by the time we see a new Camaro...we may not even be using conventional shock absorbers anymore.
Re: Mustang may go with IRS...(and not just for Cobra).
I loved that Ford put in the live axle and made an effort to make it handle better. And if they give the option for IRS in the SE and the Cobra then that much better IMO.
I felt the car industry was a better place when you had more options available as a consumer to get your car the way you wanted it. I'd be cool if they made the IRS standard in the SE and offered the live axle as an option with a price decrease.
Hopefully it's successful and Chevy will do the same with the Camaro and offer the solid rear end for those that would prefer it.
I felt the car industry was a better place when you had more options available as a consumer to get your car the way you wanted it. I'd be cool if they made the IRS standard in the SE and offered the live axle as an option with a price decrease.
Hopefully it's successful and Chevy will do the same with the Camaro and offer the solid rear end for those that would prefer it.
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